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attroll
05-16-2006, 10:51 PM
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This is Maine’s first Geo-rallye adventure and since you may not know what a Geo-Rallye is I’ll explain.

First of all it is not a FTF event !!! Yes some caches will surely have a FTF on them, but that is not the object. The object of this event is to find as many of the placed caches, locationless caches, and other geo targets that are laid out, before the timed finish.

This event, put on by MGA with myself “Hoamdezinahs”, and my good friend “Gobler” as the rallye co-ordinators, will cover approximately 250 to 300 miles of Southern Maine. It will be approximately 14-15 hours of nonstop geo-caching excitement. We are putting out between 20 and 24 (log-able) caches in 5 counties. Add to that, a bunch of locationless caches, and other geo-scavenger hunt items that have to be found, and it promises to be a fun, exciting, and very tiring day. You will be scored points for every cache, locationless cache, and geo target that you find.

The event will end for a bbq steak supper, awards & prizes at a secret lodge on Sebago Lake. You may come to the meeting at the finish even if you do not enter the rallye. The cost for the meal is between $13.00 - 15.00, (don’t know for sure yet, will in a couple weeks) per person, if you want it. We need a head count and the money for the meal in advance.

Entry and Rallye Rules:
1) The contribution to participate in the rallye is $40.00 per team. This contribution pays for prizes, awards, and expenses related to the event. (No-one makes any profit on the event) Registration forms will be emailed on request. The participation contribution and meal fees are due when you send in your registration form, and is non-refundable.
2) Teams can consist of no more than four persons. (No exceptions)
3) The design of the rallye is such that participation is limited to 30 teams, and anyone wishing to enter must pre-register before the end of July. (If you wait till then there may not be a slot available for you.)
4) All teams will be e-mailed a packet of cache info and co-ords at sunset the night before the event.
5) You will have until sunrise the next morning to plan your attack. Hopefully it won’t take you more than a couple hours.
6) Teams can start anywhere they want in the southern Maine area at daylight on the morning of the event. There is no advantage or disadvantage as to where you start. It will end at 4:30 that afternoon at the final co-ords. There will be a “check in” when you arrive and you will be deducted points for every minute that you are late.
7) All caches that you have to find will be less than 3/10 mile from the vehicle parking and no more than a #2.5 hide. Locationless caches will be found along the route. Caches placed will be a combination of ammo boxes, lock and lock containers, and 35 mm containers.
8) All of the cache finds, both real and locationless, must be verified by a digital photo of the team (less the one taking the pix), with said cache in hand, or locationless item in the pix (in daylight).
9) Teams will be scored points for each cache found, each locationless cache found, and each geo scavenger item found.
10) You will have a scorecard in your packet to score yourself as you progress through the day.
11) A scoreboard will be posted at the finish so that you can compare your score with other teams.
12) Prizes and trophies, will be given out to the entrants. Even if you do not compete you will be eligible to win door prizes.
13) It is mandatory that all people have a fun time.

All cache information will be emailed the night before at sunset, and will include the town and the approximate location (ie. Street location, boat launch, town park, etc.) for the caches. You should be able to layout a route with a Delorme Maine Atlas. Some gpsr’s allow you to plot a route.

Items needed for the event:
Minimum: GPSR, Maine Atlas, water and snacks, clipboard, pens and or pencils, headache pills.

Prepared: A laptop with a mapping program, and either a vehicle plug-in or 110/12v converter for your car. Once you put in the cache co-ords and your own location it will plot a route for you.

Geo rallye prepared: Same as prepared, but with a gpsr enabled laptop and a mapping program.

If you only have a team of two people, and want to do this with another couple, please let us know. We will see if we can set you up with another couple about the same age, in the same area. That way you’ll be sharing expenses, and 4 people searching makes finding caches faster.

IF YOU WOULD LIKE AN ENTRY FORM PLEASE SEND ME AN E-MAIL REQUEST THROUGH MY PROFILE AND I'LL SEND YOU ONE. PLEASE CHECK THE BOX TO INCLUDE YOUR E-MAIL ADDRESS WITH YOUR MESSAGE.

attroll
05-16-2006, 11:07 PM
I have some questions on this:

If all caches are 3/10 of a mile from the vehicle parking then we can walk to all of them or is it suppose to say 3 to 10 miles?

If we do not care about the prizes then can we still do this without paying the required $40.00 registration fee and just do it along with everyone else and not get the trophy or is the $40.00 required.

GeoMaine
05-17-2006, 02:20 AM
I have some questions on this:

If all caches are 3/10 of a mile from the vehicle parking then we can walk to all of them or is it suppose to say 3 to 10 miles?

If we do not care about the prizes then can we still do this without paying the required $40.00 registration fee and just do it along with everyone else and not get the trophy or is the $40.00 required.

Hey Rick;
I may be able to answer those for you:

The caches will be, at most, 3/10ths of a mile from where you (should) park your car. You may find some caches you can literally grab while sitting in your geo-vehicle as well.

The forty dollars is PER TEAM, not per person. If you put together a team of four (as is the hope and honestly, the best way to attack it) then it's only ten bucks per person. For twelve hours of fun, that's a VERY hard deal to beat. Less than a dollar per hour per person : )

The more people that participate the better the prizes, and the more there will be of them. 100% of the money collected is going into this ralley.

As for dinner, that is up to you. The per plate price is right on the level of what the costs are for the dinner itself. John nor M.G.A have anything at all to do with the dinner, other than collecting the money and a head count for the non-profit organization that is actually holding the dinner for us.

As for the "Can we play without paying?" question, you'll have to contact hoamdezinahs on that one. : )

attroll
05-17-2006, 03:32 AM
Hey Rick;
I may be able to answer those for you:

The caches will be, at most, 3/10ths of a mile from where you (should) park your car. You may find some caches you can literally grab while sitting in your geo-vehicle as well.

The forty dollars is PER TEAM, not per person. If you put together a team of four (as is the hope and honestly, the best way to attack it) then it's only ten bucks per person. For twelve hours of fun, that's a VERY hard deal to beat. Less than a dollar per hour per person : )

The more people that participate the better the prizes, and the more there will be of them. 100% of the money collected is going into this ralley.

As for dinner, that is up to you. The per plate price is right on the level of what the costs are for the dinner itself. John nor M.G.A have anything at all to do with the dinner, other than collecting the money and a head count for the non-profit organization that is actually holding the dinner for us.

As for the "Can we play without paying?" question, you'll have to contact hoamdezinahs on that one. : )
This does sound like fun but I have never been to an event where you had to pay to participant in an event. This sounds just like the same thing they did at the Mt. Agamenticus Caching event last month and they had some great prizes and it was free. I am not complaining don’t get me wrong. Every event is different I guess. I am just worried this may detour some people from attending. But I guess time will tell.

WhereRWe?
05-17-2006, 06:19 AM
Who is the "M.G.A." that is sponsoring this? :confused: :confused:

Smitty & Co.
05-17-2006, 02:36 PM
Who is the "M.G.A." that is sponsoring this? :confused: :confused:

My guess is it is the newly formed association of "Southern" Maine geocachers they've been talking about. :confused: I assume it stands for "Maine Geocachers Association"
By no means a true representative of all Maine goecachers. :)

Smitty & Co.
05-17-2006, 02:45 PM
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This is Maine’s first Geo-rallye adventure and since you may not know what a Geo-Rallye is I’ll explain.

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No thanks, have fun folks but this just ain't our cup of tea. We'll continue to enjoy our walks in the woods and be happy with it. :D The last thing that I would consider fun would be having to wait in line at a cache while those before me signed the log.:( Then I suppose I'd feel hurried to sign it so those behind me didn't have to wait very long. But like I said.....to those that enjoy this type of caching......have fun!

attroll
05-17-2006, 03:19 PM
No thanks, have fun folks but this just ain't our cup of tea. We'll continue to enjoy our walks in the woods and be happy with it. :D The last thing that I would consider fun would be having to wait in line at a cache while those before me signed the log.:( Then I suppose I'd feel hurried to sign it so those behind me didn't have to wait very long. But like I said.....to those that enjoy this type of caching......have fun!

Smitty, I would have to agree with you on this. I did not really paticipate in the one that was like this at the Mt. Agamenticus Caching event but I helped one team. There were groups of people that were loooking for the same cache at the same time and it was very award to say the least. I would not like doing something like that and have to pay $40 to do it. Granted this may be different and may even be better. So I am not totally writing this one off. I have marked it on my calendar and if I am free August 19th I will give it a whirl and at least drive down there.

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-17-2006, 03:59 PM
It sounds like fun but here is my break down.

$10.00 registration fee (assuming 3 others would even want to go with me;) )
$45.00 (300 miles at 20 mpg at 3.00 per gallon, thats not even the ride down and back) yeah, I've rounded it up but I way underestimated the mileage.
$3.00 (tolls unless I sneak down the long way)
$30.00/person for meals and snacks this includes the BBQ (probably more because I like my snacks)
$45.00 daycare because the girls would not stay interested for the duration, unless my wife doesn't want to go and the $45.00 will have go towards making up my spending a day geocaching:eek: .

$133.00 for just to participate and more when factoring Murphy's Law

While I would like to do this, its just not fiscally responsible.

Hope everyone who does participates has a blast!!!

d’76
05-17-2006, 04:19 PM
FORTY BUCKS!! to go to southern maine and look for caches

UGH:confused:

I hope all that go enjoy it but this is not for me

Team2hunt
05-17-2006, 04:50 PM
Because it is different the Team is going to be there. Sounds like a GIANT scavenger hunt and I want to say I was part of it. kayakerinme and I had 2 other members but we seem to have lost them. KK to a trip across Cananda and Ordinary Shark to a trip to Seattle. That leaves 2 open seats in the Tahoe. We'll be taking applications ( please send the non-refundable $10.00 with your paperwork) ;) Seriously, this is going to be fun. Forget the cost, I've spent more caching up in the middle of nowhere before. And no prizes. :rolleyes: Where's your " lets beat those southerners ".

tat
05-17-2006, 04:54 PM
...one that was like this at the Mt. Agamenticus ...

The event is not at all like the game I put on for the Mt. A. event.

What they describe is a lot like a car rally. I think the places will be a fair distance apart and the idea is not to race to see who is the fastest, but rather to complete the course and find the most items.

If you like driving around (with the top down!), you'll love this. If you'd rather be walking 10 miles into the woods, you probably won't. It's unlikely that there will be crowds at the caches, because everyone will be starting from a different place.

Unfortunately, I will be at a family reunion in Montana, so, I won't be there.

Smitty & Co.
05-17-2006, 05:09 PM
Forget the cost, I've spent more caching up in the middle of nowhere before. And no prizes. :rolleyes: Where's your " lets beat those southerners ".

For alot of us with families and children that cache with us, this would not be fun. I have a girls 13 and 9 and no where in the rally description do I see where children are taken into consideration. How many kids this age are gonna want to be dragged around for 300 miles that will take 12-14 hours? :( As far as the cost.....well, some of you have thicker wallets than we do and can well afford to ram around for a day of fun......others, have to budget and plan their caching accordingly. Prizes....who cares, but with the money they'll be taking in, I should hope that they would be giving out new GPSr units and laptops as prizes, and more than one at that. I cache for the enjoyment of getting out in the woods being with my family. As far as beating "those southerners" We already have! :D I'll take caching up here in the middle of "No where" anyday, the prize for that.......being in the middle of no where. :D :p :D

d’76
05-17-2006, 05:11 PM
For alot of us with families and children that cache with us, this would not be fun. I have a girls 13 and 9 and no where in the rally description do I see where children are taken into consideration. How many kids this age are gonna want to be dragged around for 300 miles that will take 12-14 hours? :( As far as the cost.....well, some of you have thicker wallets than we do and can well afford to ram around for a day of fun......others, have to budget and plan their caching accordingly. Prizes....who cares, but with the money they'll be taking in, I should hope that they would be giving out new GPSr units and laptops as prizes, and more than one at that. I cache for the enjoyment of getting out in the woods being with my family. As far as beating "those southerners" We already have! :D I'll take caching up here in the middle of "No where" anyday, the prize for that.......being in the middle of no where. :D :p :D


You couldnt have said it better

d’76
05-17-2006, 05:32 PM
After doing extensive research I discovered Maine is about 314 miles from one end to the other and that means that Howland is about half way at 157 miles from the southern tip of Maine. Does this mean that every one south of Howland is from Southern Maine:D

Smitty & Co.
05-17-2006, 05:34 PM
After doing extensive research I discovered Maine is about 314 miles from one end to the other and that means that Lincoln is half way at 157 miles from the southern tip of Maine. Does this mean that every one south of Lincoln is from Southern Maine:D

I would be in agreement with that statement. :D But I truly believe its where your heart resides. :)

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-17-2006, 05:39 PM
refundable $10.00 with your paperwork) ;) Seriously, this is going to be fun. Forget the cost, I've spent more caching up in the middle of nowhere before. And no prizes. :rolleyes: Where's your " lets beat those southerners ".


Hmmm, forget the cost???!!!!! NOPE!!! LOL. I've never spent over $150.00 in one day to get 20 caches. I've never driven over a hundred miles in one day for 20 caches. :D

So this really is about north vs. south. :eek:

Seriously, geocaching has never been a competition for me. Prizes are a nice touch but have little appeal. The money it would cost me to go for one day would buy a nice used vista C or legend C sure thing; winning a prize is a lot riskier. Then like Smitty and I mentioned, the length of the event kind of rules out bringing the kiddoes. Sitting in a car 12-14 hours finding 35 mm canisters would be nice for me but would bore my kids into a coma. While it would be great to get together and chat with folks at an event and even get 20 caches in one day, my priorities are my kids then geocaching;) , then my wife. (I can never remember, is that the right order?)

I hope those who participate have a great time!!

I will have a great time bringing my daughters to one cache on the coast somewhere, grabbing an ice cream cone with them, then play a little minature golf. (50 miles to the beach maybe --$10.00 in gas--, $12.00 ice cream for everyone, and $25.00 for a round of minature golf and the whole gang has fun, not just me.)

I'll be geocaching for awhile, the numbers will happen. I'm not overly concerned with getting all the caches or reaching my 500th or 600th find by a certain date or about bragging rights that I've found more caches than another cacher. This is what is great about geocaching! Everyone can do it and do it their way!!!!


Have fun and good luck. May the person with the best laptop, gps, software and digital camera come in last;) ;) :eek: !!! or at least get the 200 dollar speeding ticket!!! Just kidding!!! Have fun and good luck!!!

d’76
05-17-2006, 05:48 PM
Who is the "M.G.A." that is sponsoring this? :confused: :confused:


http://www.maritimegeocaching.com/:D

kayakerinme
05-17-2006, 06:04 PM
Is it just me or does everything in this thread seem to be negative? If it's just me, then nevermind. If it isn't... why?

Paraphrasing what gpsfun said it the other night at the event - the game is big enough that everyone can do what they want and still find enjoyment. If you want 10-mile hikes in the woods, great, we've got those. If you want to drive around and find micros, great, we've got those too. Like to cache alone? No problem. Like to cache with your family, or your dog, or your cat? No problem - you can't do every cache with your dog, but you can do a lot of them.

If it's not your cup of tea, then why bother posting that you don't like the idea, or that you don't want to spend the money, or that you don't like the idea of sitting in a car all day? I'm sorry, but this escapes me.:confused:

We encourage each other all the time with birthday wishes and milestone congradulations. I've never seen anyone post along the lines of, "Hey, 100 caches, huh? Wonder how much time and effort it took you to find all those. I'll bet it's a lot, wish I had that much time on my hands..." Why do that here?

On the positive side, these rallies take place around the country all the time. There was a 2-day event in TN where some cachers attended from 500 miles away. There's the other one in Canada that was posted here on this board. Heck, we might even get a few cachers "from away" :p

WhereRWe?
05-17-2006, 06:12 PM
Well, perhaps the 2 organizers can race against themselves! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

WhereRWe?
05-17-2006, 06:19 PM
http://www.maritimegeocaching.com/:D

Hmmm... Nothing about this event on their site... :confused: :confused:

WhereRWe?
05-17-2006, 06:24 PM
If it's not your cup of tea, then why bother posting that you don't like the idea, or that you don't want to spend the money, or that you don't like the idea of sitting in a car all day? I'm sorry, but this escapes me.:confused:


Why do we post that we don't like the idea? Because we can. That's what these forums are all about. We express our opinions. Sometimes we say great things about something, sometimes we have less than favorable comments. But this is America! (Cue "Stars and Stripes Forever").

And if you don't like what we say, you are perfectly free to complain - like you just have! Isn't this a GREAT country??? :D :D

kayakerinme
05-17-2006, 07:00 PM
Why do we post that we don't like the idea? Because we can. That's what these forums are all about. We express our opinions. Sometimes we say great things about something, sometimes we have less than favorable comments. But this is America! (Cue "Stars and Stripes Forever").

And if you don't like what we say, you are perfectly free to complain - like you just have! Isn't this a GREAT country??? :D :D

<vent mode on>
Yes, this is the United States of America, and it is a great country. But I have been taught to be respectful of others and their feelings. You are welcome to make a less than favorable comment, many in fact.

To me, there is a huge difference between saying, "40 bucks to go caching for a day - you've got to be kidding." and "I don't like that there's an entry fee for the event. I'd participate if you could get some sponsors. Thanks but I'll pass and see you at the next event."

I think there's been a lot more of the former than the latter lately and I'm a little tired of it. I'm not going back through the threads to find specific examples, but that's my feeling about the way the board has been lately.

I know I'll be tromped on for this post but I'm done posting for tonight. I need to step away and clear my head.

Thanks for reading this. Vent mode is now off.
<vent mode off>

d’76
05-17-2006, 07:13 PM
<vent mode on>
Yes, this is the United States of America, and it is a great country. But I have been taught to be respectful of others and their feelings. You are welcome to make a less than favorable comment, many in fact.

To me, there is a huge difference between saying, "40 bucks to go caching for a day - you've got to be kidding." and "I don't like that there's an entry fee for the event. I'd participate if you could get some sponsors. Thanks but I'll pass and see you at the next event."

I think there's been a lot more of the former than the latter lately and I'm a little tired of it. I'm not going back through the threads to find specific examples, but that's my feeling about the way the board has been lately.

I know I'll be tromped on for this post but I'm done posting for tonight. I need to step away and clear my head.

Thanks for reading this. Vent mode is now off.
<vent mode off>

Oh man I can see the gloves coming off before long. What I am saying is that if there are going to be between 20 and 24 (log-able) caches in 5 counties. I dont need to give anyone 40 bucks for anything. If they are logable I will go find them on my own.:rolleyes:

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-17-2006, 07:24 PM
If it's not your cup of tea, then why bother posting that you don't like the idea, or that you don't want to spend the money, or that you don't like the idea of sitting in a car all day? I'm sorry, but this escapes me.:confused:



Why is it that folks make generalizations about everyone who post here? I feel I have to defend my earlier post. I can't justify the expense in light of the fact I would be denying my children a day at the beach. If that makes my earlier post negative, that is an issue you will simply have to get over. I retract my earlier statement, I wish everyone good luck and lots of fun except those who feel they are righteous enough to condemn those of us who post a legitimate reason why we will not attend. If I don't post then you're the type who will comment that we are boycotting the event for some other fabricated reason. The proverbial rock and the hard place. If you feel it isn't legit feel free to PM me and not make generalizations in a public forum condemning me for my reasoning or this negativity you feel that I as well as everyone but you are giving off.


Oh, I also posted that I cannot attend the CITO event in Bangor. My reasoning was a previous engagement, is that post OK???? Was it too negative????? Do you think because I can't/won't go that I hate the idea of a CITO event???? Maybe I just shouldn't have posted that way the organizer can wonder why I didn't show up????

d’76
05-17-2006, 07:31 PM
Keep in mind I think that all of us in here including the ones that may not agree or what ever with this or cant afford it or dont want to go, appreciate the amount of work that these guys are putting in to this. I know that I do and remember I have said it probably 100 times that I have never met a cacher that I didnt like. I would go have a beer with every one of them after a day of caching. If you look at how many events I have organized you will see that I havent put any togeather. I dont want to do it. So kudos to them, I think it would be fun for the folks that attend. I think if my circumstances where different I would give it a try. So, to the folks that are organizing this you have more patience than I and more initiative than I and much more discipline. I would give up half way through.:)

Mainiac1957
05-17-2006, 07:31 PM
Oh, I also posted that I cannot attend the CITO event in Bangor. My reasoning was a previous engagement, is that post OK???? Was it too negative????? Do you think because I can't/won't go that I hate the idea of a CITO event???? Maybe I just shouldn't have posted that way the organizer can wonder why I didn't show up????
You're not coming to my event:(



:rolleyes: OK I knew that..........:rolleyes:

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 07:45 PM
My guess is it is the newly formed association of "Southern" Maine geocachers they've been talking about. :confused: I assume it stands for "Maine Geocachers Association"
By no means a true representative of all Maine goecachers. :)

Smitty, looking at your picture, you seam like a happy famliy man with a couple nice kids. If the kids at school treated your kids the way you treat fellow geo cachers you'd be upset. (And your a grownup, or suppose to be) None of us geocachers down in the southern part of the state have done anything to cause you to treat us the way you do. The comment that you placed on the geosite page for rallye today was completely uncalled for.
We have formed the Maine Geocaching Assoc. and every cacher in the state is welcome to join if they wish. We exclude no-one.
In my life, in my business, in geocacging, and in everything I do, I bend over backwards to make friends and to get along with everyone I meet. Life is too short to antagonize, insult, belittle, and insult, instead of being friendly. I'm sorry that for whatever reason you don't like me, but to my knowledge I've never done any wrong to you. John

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 07:46 PM
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This is Maine’s first Geo-rallye adventure and since you may not know what a Geo-Rallye is I’ll explain.



No thanks, have fun folks but this just ain't our cup of tea. We'll continue to enjoy our walks in the woods and be happy with it. :D The last thing that I would consider fun would be having to wait in line at a cache while those before me signed the log.:( Then I suppose I'd feel hurried to sign it so those behind me didn't have to wait very long. But like I said.....to those that enjoy this type of caching......have fun![/quote]

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 07:50 PM
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This is Maine’s first Geo-rallye adventure and since you may not know what a Geo-Rallye is I’ll explain.



No thanks, have fun folks but this just ain't our cup of tea. We'll continue to enjoy our walks in the woods and be happy with it. :D The last thing that I would consider fun would be having to wait in line at a cache while those before me signed the log.:( Then I suppose I'd feel hurried to sign it so those behind me didn't have to wait very long. But like I said.....to those that enjoy this type of caching......have fun![/quote]

I don't knock you for taking 10 mile walks, why should you care if people want to do this event, And the statement about waiting in line just shows you don't know how the event will be run. John

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 07:57 PM
[quote=Trezurs*-R-*Fun]It sounds like fun but here is my break down.

$10.00 registration fee (assuming 3 others would even want to go with me;) )
$45.00 (300 miles at 20 mpg at 3.00 per gallon, thats not even the ride down and back) yeah, I've rounded it up but I way underestimated the mileage.
$3.00 (tolls unless I sneak down the long way)
$30.00/person for meals and snacks this includes the BBQ (probably more because I like my snacks)
$45.00 daycare because the girls would not stay interested for the duration, unless my wife doesn't want to go and the $45.00 will have go towards making up my spending a day geocaching:eek: .

$133.00 for just to participate and more when factoring Murphy's Law

While I would like to do this, its just not fiscally responsible.

Hope everyone who does participates has a blast!!!

Steve, your probrably right, If anyone wants to run this they will spend between $125 and $150. It's that simple. It's not for everyone. When I went to Fla in Jan, I ran an event similar to this and I figured it would be about $150 and it was. But it was a blast, what can i say. If I wanted to go to Fort Kent to cache for a day, it would cost me about $150. but no-one has to come. So if a person isn't coming, why knock it.
I would bet money that in the months before the Rallye in Florida, there wern't any negative rally comments on the florida caching website. John

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 07:58 PM
FORTY BUCKS!! to go to southern maine and look for caches

UGH:confused:

I hope all that go enjoy it but this is not for me

You don't have Dave, to come but why knock it. John

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 08:04 PM
For alot of us with families and children that cache with us, this would not be fun. I have a girls 13 and 9 and no where in the rally description do I see where children are taken into consideration. How many kids this age are gonna want to be dragged around for 300 miles that will take 12-14 hours? :( As far as the cost.....well, some of you have thicker wallets than we do and can well afford to ram around for a day of fun......others, have to budget and plan their caching accordingly. Prizes....who cares, but with the money they'll be taking in, I should hope that they would be giving out new GPSr units and laptops as prizes, and more than one at that. I cache for the enjoyment of getting out in the woods being with my family. As far as beating "those southerners" We already have! :D I'll take caching up here in the middle of "No where" anyday, the prize for that.......being in the middle of no where. :D :p :D

Gary, The fact is this would not be a fun event for young kids. I can't picture putting my 4 to 6 year old grandkids in a car and run around the back roads for a day. Teenagers, now that's a different story. They would probrably love it. Lets face it, not every event is for everyone. Would familys be taking toddlers on an extreem cache hunt. I don't think so. John

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 08:08 PM
Well, perhaps the 2 organizers can race against themselves! :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

What does this comment achieve, other that cause hateful feelingt towards fellow cachers. John

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 08:08 PM
Hmmm... Nothing about this event on their site... :confused: :confused:

Stay tuned.

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 08:11 PM
Oh man I can see the gloves coming off before long. What I am saying is that if there are going to be between 20 and 24 (log-able) caches in 5 counties. I dont need to give anyone 40 bucks for anything. If they are logable I will go find them on my own.:rolleyes:

I you could fine 3 other people that could put up with you for the day, it would only cost you $10. (plus you share or the gas of course). John

d’76
05-17-2006, 08:12 PM
I you could fine 3 other people that could put up with you for the day, it would only cost you $10. (plus you share or the gas of course). John

Your right it takes a special someone to put up with my BS for the day. I can only think of a few that have been able to do it so far.:D :p

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 08:14 PM
Keep in mind I think that all of us in here including the ones that may not agree or what ever with this or cant afford it or dont want to go, appreciate the amount of work that these guys are putting in to this. I know that I do and remember I have said it probably 100 times that I have never met a cacher that I didnt like. I would go have a beer with every one of them after a day of caching. If you look at how many events I have organized you will see that I havent put any togeather. I dont want to do it. So kudos to them, I think it would be fun for the folks that attend. I think if my circumstances where different I would give it a try. So, to the folks that are organizing this you have more patience than I and more initiative than I and much more discipline. I would give up half way through.:)

If you've never met a cacher you didn't like, why do you beat us up so bad Dave? Your a teacher Dave, you of all people should be spreading respect, good will, and friendly words, instead of insults, and mean sprited remarks. John

d’76
05-17-2006, 08:17 PM
If you've never met a cacher you didn't like, why do you beat us up so bad Dave? Your a teacher Dave, you of all people should be spreading respect, good will, and friendly words, instead of insults, and mean sprited remarks. John

And I am a damn good teacher that provides a safe enviroment for the kids and so I have a strong opion about a few things. I hope that in all of this things work out just fine for you folks.

kayakerinme
05-17-2006, 08:18 PM
Okay, I lied. I said I was going to leave the thread alone for the night and I didn't. I haven't been disappointed or surprised by the responses.

Getting back on topic...
I don't want finances getting in the way of the event. If you can't or even don't want to pay, here's my offer: for anyone who asks, I'll pay their team's registration fee and for their tank of gas to run the event. Send me an email before the event and we'll make the arrangements.

Barry / kayakerinme
kayakerinme (at) kayakerinme.com

d’76
05-17-2006, 08:19 PM
If you've never met a cacher you didn't like, why do you beat us up so bad Dave? Your a teacher Dave, you of all people should be spreading respect, good will, and friendly words, instead of insults, and mean sprited remarks. John

and for the record I would have a cold beer with you after a day of caching. :)

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 08:31 PM
This event will be a fun, wild, and crazy day for the teams that plan to come out. Is it for everyone, no it's not, but if you don't want to come out why don't you just leave it alone. Don't belittle those of us that are putting in the time and effort to but it together. I will spend over $300 or $400 of my own money and probably over 100 hours of my time to put this on. Other people working on it will also spend a lot of their time and their money on it as well.
Yes it cost $40.00 to enter, and maybe another 80 or so in Gas. Add in the meal and it's a few bucks. So what!!!!! If you don't want to come, you don't have to. But why show the world you're an @$$ by belittling the people that put it on and the people that want to go do it. For goodness sake, grow up.
Anyone is welcome to enter this event. Anyone that dosen't want to compete can still come to the finish and the steak supper. Non competitors are still eligable for door prizes (for Free).
Just because some of us are southern mainers and some of us are northern mainers dosen't mean we shouldn't get along.
What some of you have against us I don't know. We have never done anything against any of you that warrents the slander.
Can't we get along, John

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 08:34 PM
If any one has any real questions about the event I'll be glad to answer them. John

attroll
05-17-2006, 08:44 PM
Is it just me or does everything in this thread seem to be negative? If it's just me, then nevermind. If it isn't... why?

Paraphrasing what gpsfun said it the other night at the event - the game is big enough that everyone can do what they want and still find enjoyment. If you want 10-mile hikes in the woods, great, we've got those. If you want to drive around and find micros, great, we've got those too. Like to cache alone? No problem. Like to cache with your family, or your dog, or your cat? No problem - you can't do every cache with your dog, but you can do a lot of them.

If it's not your cup of tea, then why bother posting that you don't like the idea, or that you don't want to spend the money, or that you don't like the idea of sitting in a car all day? I'm sorry, but this escapes me.:confused:

We encourage each other all the time with birthday wishes and milestone congradulations. I've never seen anyone post along the lines of, "Hey, 100 caches, huh? Wonder how much time and effort it took you to find all those. I'll bet it's a lot, wish I had that much time on my hands..." Why do that here?

On the positive side, these rallies take place around the country all the time. There was a 2-day event in TN where some cachers attended from 500 miles away. There's the other one in Canada that was posted here on this board. Heck, we might even get a few cachers "from away" :p

I noticed the negative vibes here and I think it has something to do with the past issues some have had with the user hosting this event. Well I thought the past was behind us. Let’s move on. Hell if every time I pissed someone off and they slammed me I would never have any friends (maybe that is why I don’t) LOL. I feel bad that I posted what I did but my post was not meant to be negative. I was just stating my thoughts on the price and about doing so many caches with groups in a 3/10 of a mile area.

As for the price for what it cost to have an event, people need to realize that before they hold the event. If someone wants to charge for an event then that is there choice. I personally do not charge for my events and I have spent in an excess of over $200 for each event I have held with the exception on the kayak event. I don't have anything against anyone charging for an event if it is within reason. $10 is really not a bad price. I know people have traveled to events in the past like to Bangor last year to do the CITO for Maniac1957’s event and I did not hear people bitching about that in the open forums. I could list more events that people have had to drive distances to and never heard any complaining on the forums about them until now.

One problem I have with this event is that we do not even know what the prizes are yet. The prizes all depend on how many people participate. This is really not a big issue but just a suggestion. You may get more people if you announce what the prizes are going to be ahead of time.

This post was not meant to be negative. I am just posting replies and offering suggestions.

gpsxplr
05-17-2006, 08:45 PM
Anyone out there attending this need a team member? I think this would be fun and would love to participate.

Things I can bring to a team:
I own a Garmin StreetPilot which does turn by turn vocal directions. I also have MapSource software with city navigator and us topo maps. I also have a laptop, although no car adapter (they are rather pricey).
Oh and a digital camera.

attroll
05-17-2006, 08:47 PM
Anyone out there attending this need a team member? I think this would be fun and would love to participate.

Things I can bring to a team:
I own a Garmin StreetPilot which does turn by turn vocal directions. I also have MapSource software with city navigator and us topo maps. I also have a laptop, although no car adapter (they are rather pricey).
Oh and a digital camera.

I may be attending this event but it is to far out to commit to it yet. If I attend the event and you still need a player I will be more then happy to hook up with you.

Team2hunt
05-17-2006, 09:12 PM
I may be attending this event but it is to far out to commit to it yet. If I attend the event and you still need a player I will be more then happy to hook up with you.

This is a great example of playing well with others. Thanks guys. :p

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-17-2006, 09:14 PM
This is a great example of playing well with others. Thanks guys. :p

Wow!!! And to think one of your first post was pitting north against south. :D

Team2hunt
05-17-2006, 09:18 PM
Wow!!! And to think one of your first post was pitting north against south. :D

In the name of competition and FUN. Let all of those who want to, join in and enjoy. Didn't know everyone was gonna get mad. Lighten up. :D :p :rolleyes: :) :D

parmachenee
05-17-2006, 09:24 PM
Steve, your probrably right, If anyone wants to run this they will spend between $125 and $150. It's that simple.

I just spent an average of $10/cache on a day of caching for 5 caches! And I brought my own food. 24 caches for for $150....that's a bahgin!! :D

parmachenee
05-17-2006, 09:53 PM
This event will be a fun, wild, and crazy day for the teams that plan to come out.

team registration $40
meals $15
gas $80
north joining the south....priceless :D

Hiram357
05-17-2006, 09:54 PM
geeeze im not driving all the way to massachusettes for that!! :rolleyes:

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-17-2006, 09:55 PM
In the name of competition and FUN. Let all of those who want to, join in and enjoy. Didn't know everyone was gonna get mad. Lighten up. :D :p :rolleyes: :) :D

Apparently you choose to ignore the smiley face at the end of the post!!! I'm thinking you should "Lighten up":D :D :D

Hoamdezinahs
05-17-2006, 10:48 PM
[quote=attroll] I was just stating my thoughts on the price and about doing so many caches with groups in a 3/10 of a mile area.One problem I have with this event is that we do not even know what the prizes are yet. The prizes all depend on how many people participate.


First of all the caches are not in a 3/10 mile area. That wouln't make for an interesting hunt now would it. They are all 3/10 of a mile or less from where you park for each individual cache. The caches are spread over the entire rallye route.
As for prizes, they will be interesting and as plentiful as the amount of money taken in since it will all be spent on them. In addition we expect to get sponsors as well. So Prizes and awards should be well accepted.
John

attroll
05-18-2006, 12:01 AM
First of all the caches are not in a 3/10 mile area. That wouldn't make for an interesting hunt now would it. They are all 3/10 of a mile or less from where you park for each individual cache. The caches are spread over the entire rallye route.
As for prizes, they will be interesting and as plentiful as the amount of money taken in since it will all be spent on them. In addition we expect to get sponsors as well. So Prizes and awards should be well accepted.
John
That was my fault for misinterpreting it wrong. Thank you for clearing that part up.

The prize thing was just a suggestion and that was all.

WhereRWe?
05-18-2006, 06:20 AM
I have said it probably 100 times that I have never met a cacher that I didnt like. I would go have a beer with every one of them after a day of caching.

If you're buying, I think Hiram and I can meet you somewhere... :D :D

The G Team
05-18-2006, 08:37 AM
I may be attending this event but it is to far out to commit to it yet. If I attend the event and you still need a player I will be more then happy to hook up with you.

Rick, this looks like this could be a heck of a lot of fun. I've tentatively put it in my schedule, though it is right around the time we start back up at school--also Brad usually has his Last Cache Bashe around this time.

It would be cool if we could find a couple other people to go with and split gas.

I have no idea why many folks are negative about something new (at least new to us). Like Mom said, how do you know you won't like it if you don't try it.

firefighterjake
05-18-2006, 08:46 AM
Wow . . . looks like some folks have got a lot of pent up emotions from not being able to geocache in the rain or something. ;)

My take on this event (not that anyone asked, but since everyone seems to want to give their input on it) is this . . . if you don't want to go, cannot go due to other obligations or cannot afford to go then don't go. There's no need for an explanation of why you cannot go or won't go or why you dislike the concept behind something like this.

Personally, I'm not into events and I definitely wouldn't be into a competitive event like this . . . but that's just me. The nice thing about geocaching is that there are so many different ways to play the game (micros, long hikes, clever hides (think Laughing Terry and BRdad), FTFs, etc.) I wish the event hosts and attendees success with this rally . . . even though it's not my cup of proverbial tea.

The G Team
05-18-2006, 09:15 AM
My take on this event (not that anyone asked, but since everyone seems to want to give their input on it) is this . . . if you don't want to go, cannot go due to other obligations or cannot afford to go then don't go. There's no need for an explanation of why you cannot go or won't go or why you dislike the concept behind something like this.


Well said, Jake, well said.

kayakerinme
05-18-2006, 09:23 AM
This got posted at the bottom of the page and quickly got overrun. This is just a repeat:

I don't want finances getting in the way of what I think will be a great event. If you can't or even don't want to pay, here's my offer: for anyone who asks, I'll pay their team's registration fee and for their tank of gas to run the event. Send me an email before the event and we'll make the arrangements.

Barry / kayakerinme
kayakerinme (at) kayakerinme.com

Cache Maine
05-18-2006, 10:06 AM
This got posted at the bottom of the page and quickly got overrun. This is just a repeat:

I don't want finances getting in the way of what I think will be a great event. If you can't or even don't want to pay, here's my offer: for anyone who asks, I'll pay their team's registration fee and for their tank of gas to run the event. Send me an email before the event and we'll make the arrangements.

Barry / kayakerinme
kayakerinme (at) kayakerinme.com

How about one of those new Toyota FJ Cruisers??? Red would be great. :p

kayakerinme
05-18-2006, 10:09 AM
How about one of those new Toyota FJ Cruisers??? Red would be great. :p

If you can tell me where I can get you one for a hundred bucks or so, I'll buy one for me and one for you. ;)

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-18-2006, 10:50 AM
Wow . . . looks like some folks have got a lot of pent up emotions from not being able to geocache in the rain or something. ;)

My take on this event (not that anyone asked, but since everyone seems to want to give their input on it) is this . . . if you don't want to go, cannot go due to other obligations or cannot afford to go then don't go. There's no need for an explanation of why you cannot go or won't go or why you dislike the concept behind something like this.

Personally, I'm not into events and I definitely wouldn't be into a competitive event like this . . . but that's just me. The nice thing about geocaching is that there are so many different ways to play the game (micros, long hikes, clever hides (think Laughing Terry and BRdad), FTFs, etc.) I wish the event hosts and attendees success with this rally . . . even though it's not my cup of proverbial tea.

Isn't his an explanation of why you won't attend??? LOL Good for you FFJ, you got in your reasoning without drawing wrath of those who can't accept others reasoning.;) ;) ;) :D :D

Hiram357
05-18-2006, 11:14 AM
I think this would be a really cool event to do with jeeps (but further north) make it a combination jeep rally/orienteering/geocache event. I think i would like to do this event just because events are fun and this seems pretty cool but 1. the cost of the travel down there to do it, and to attend is a bit much for me right now and 2. i would make it too much of a race and have to pay fines for a speeding ticket and 3. i'll be in ohio because my brother is getting married :(

brdad
05-18-2006, 11:55 AM
I don't want finances getting in the way of what I think will be a great event. If you can't or even don't want to pay, here's my offer: for anyone who asks, I'll pay their team's registration fee and for their tank of gas to run the event. Send me an email before the event and we'll make the arrangements.

I'm in the crowd that feels this is just not their cup of tea. I am not against it as I may be with closely spaced caches or micros on lamposts, I am just not a competitive person and I like to cache at my own pace and speed, and I like to chat with people at events, not drive all over the place. In order to keep the game fun, how about paying each of us the $100 and in return, we will cache any caches except those for the rally at our own caching style and pace? :D

kayakerinme
05-18-2006, 12:08 PM
In order to keep the game fun, how about paying each of us the $100 and in return, we will cache any caches except those for the rally at our own caching style and pace? :D
In spite of the smiley face, I feel I just got personally stomped on, and once again, the concept of the rally was poked at. There's a lot more I'm thinking right now, but I'll not put that here. Or maybe I just need to grow thicker skin...

In answer to your question, no.

The G Team
05-18-2006, 12:45 PM
I think this would be a really cool event to do with jeeps (but further north) make it a combination jeep rally/orienteering/geocache event. I think i would like to do this event just because events are fun and this seems pretty cool but 1. the cost of the travel down there to do it, and to attend is a bit much for me right now and 2. i would make it too much of a race and have to pay fines for a speeding ticket and 3. i'll be in ohio because my brother is getting married :(

Not to hijack the thread (though perhaps that's not a bad idea), a 4x4 geo rally would be awesome--Jeepable caches are my favorite. Hiram, we need to talk XJs sometime. Do you ever visit www.jeepforum.com? I think you'd like it.

brdad
05-18-2006, 01:47 PM
In spite of the smiley face, I feel I just got personally stomped on, and once again, the concept of the rally was poked at. There's a lot more I'm thinking right now, but I'll not put that here. Or maybe I just need to grow thicker skin...

In answer to your question, no.

Sorry, it was meant to be humorous. Cameooo asked for an entire car, this was intended to be in the same light. And I was in no way poking at the concept of the rally. They are not for everyone, nor are micros, multis, or caching itself for that matter. TBs are not my thing, either, but many people enjoy them. If no one liked the rallys, there would not be so many of them. The logs will tell if it is a great idea for the region, and most likely the people who participate will have a great time.

kayakerinme
05-18-2006, 02:29 PM
Sorry, it was meant to be humorous. Cameooo asked for an entire car, this was intended to be in the same light. And I was in no way poking at the concept of the rally. They are not for everyone, nor are micros, multis, or caching itself for that matter. TBs are not my thing, either, but many people enjoy them. If no one liked the rallys, there would not be so many of them. The logs will tell if it is a great idea for the region, and most likely the people who participate will have a great time.

Thanks for this post. I appreciate it very much.

Cameo's post for a new car was obviously in jest. Yours was more ambiguous and I apparently took it the wrong way. My apologies.

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-18-2006, 03:09 PM
Sorry, it was meant to be humorous. Cameooo asked for an entire car, this was intended to be in the same light. And I was in no way poking at the concept of the rally. They are not for everyone, nor are micros, multis, or caching itself for that matter. TBs are not my thing, either, but many people enjoy them. If no one liked the rallys, there would not be so many of them. The logs will tell if it is a great idea for the region, and most likely the people who participate will have a great time.

Humour??? There is none of that allowed on this site anymore. This is a geocaching site and humour is now off limits. Please refrain using humour here!!!!;) ;) ;) ;) ;) ;)

WhereRWe?
05-18-2006, 04:35 PM
What does this comment achieve, other that cause hateful feelingt towards fellow cachers. John

Oops, sorry. I didn't mean it to be hateful. I was just observing that there wasn't much interest in your venture. Why do you take it as being hateful??

:D :D

Hiram357
05-18-2006, 04:36 PM
Not to hijack the thread (though perhaps that's not a bad idea), a 4x4 geo rally would be awesome--Jeepable caches are my favorite. Hiram, we need to talk XJs sometime. Do you ever visit www.jeepforum.com? (http://www.jeepforum.com?) I think you'd like it.

I believe we have the makings of a Northern Cache Rally on our hands! I'll have to check out the jeepforum... :D :D :D

WhereRWe?
05-18-2006, 04:39 PM
Or maybe I just need to grow thicker skin...



Works for me... :D :D

Sudonim
05-18-2006, 05:25 PM
How about one of those new Toyota FJ Cruisers??? Red would be great. :p

Cameo, you read my mind. When I dream of that rich benefactor setting me up for my professional caching career, that new Toyota is what I picture as my geobuggy:D
I don't think I'll be able to attend (work on Sat. and already taking too many off this summer), but it sounds like a blast. It reminds me of a car rally, which I'd like to attend too. Some people want to just take off alone or with that someone special on a twisty road, but others (like me) would enjoy that same drive with a bunch of people in a competition. If I don't make it, have fun!

kayakerinme
05-18-2006, 05:54 PM
Or maybe I just need to grow thicker skin...Works for me... :D :D

Apparently I haven't had enough time to grow any new layers of skin...

I've been asking myself how to interpret this post. There is so much meaning that's lost when we post on these forums. I'll bet if we were together, having a conversation, I wouldn't have any trouble at all. Here, as three words posted on a forum, I struggle.

It would be so easy to take this as a personal jab in a very negative light; in fact, that was my first thought.

I might also take this as a good-natured attempt at humor - after all, there are a couple of smileys at the end. But as good-natured as the attempt may be, it still comes at my expense.

I asked myself how this post builds a friendship or this community or how it relates to the topic at hand. I don't have an answer.

I'm sure I was probably asking for it... a little self-deprecating humor usually leaves the door wide open for others.

So I ask, how should I interpret this post? Does this build community in some way? Does it relate to the topic at hand? Please help me understand.

Thanks, Barry

Hiram357
05-18-2006, 06:04 PM
Apparently I haven't had enough time to grow any new layers of skin...

I've been asking myself how to interpret this post. There is so much meaning that's lost when we post on these forums. I'll bet if we were together, having a conversation, I wouldn't have any trouble at all. Here, as three words posted on a forum, I struggle.

It would be so easy to take this as a personal jab in a very negative light; in fact, that was my first thought.

I might also take this as a good-natured attempt at humor - after all, there are a couple of smileys at the end. But as good-natured as the attempt may be, it still comes at my expense.

I asked myself how this post builds a friendship or this community or how it relates to the topic at hand. I don't have an answer.

I'm sure I was probably asking for it... a little self-deprecating humor usually leaves the door wide open for others.

So I ask, how should I interpret this post? Does this build community in some way? Does it relate to the topic at hand? Please help me understand.

Thanks, Barry

I've been staying out of this one, but i have been watching it, and it looks like one misunderstood remark leading to another, and although i think some of those remarks could have gone without being said... i think we all know each other enough that it's an understood joking jab wink wink nudge nudge kinda thing goin on... but i do agree that it was self deprecating that once it started rolling it went from deprecating to deficating... (heh there's my joke) soooo cant we all just get along, go drink beer, and drive jeeps into somethin?? :D :D :D

d’76
05-18-2006, 06:05 PM
Apparently I haven't had enough time to grow any new layers of skin...

I've been asking myself how to interpret this post. There is so much meaning that's lost when we post on these forums. I'll bet if we were together, having a conversation, I wouldn't have any trouble at all. Here, as three words posted on a forum, I struggle.

It would be so easy to take this as a personal jab in a very negative light; in fact, that was my first thought.

I might also take this as a good-natured attempt at humor - after all, there are a couple of smileys at the end. But as good-natured as the attempt may be, it still comes at my expense.

I asked myself how this post builds a friendship or this community or how it relates to the topic at hand. I don't have an answer.

I'm sure I was probably asking for it... a little self-deprecating humor usually leaves the door wide open for others.

So I ask, how should I interpret this post? Does this build community in some way? Does it relate to the topic at hand? Please help me understand.

Thanks, Barry

Please read this with no strings attached as it is nothing more than me stating how I feel about this whole thing...

When I enter these forumns on a day to day basis I take every bit of it with a grain of salt. I take absolutley nothing to heart and assume every thing here that is said is said as a group of friends chatting and often times busting each others things. I figure that knowing Dave it was a jab.:D Just kidding hes a good guy and I wouldnt take that as a demeaning comment. I also dont think that any of this is personal. All that is said here is usually ones attempt to be a smart ass or even express there feelings. Remember some of us dont write so well so it is truely hard to convey our true emotions. So often it happens. I suspect that if we where all setting in the same room having this conversation none of this would have lead to here. I The smileys are here to help convey how we feel but are often disreguarded and often we read these post as we choose to. So for example when I see a post by someone I know I can read it as I know that they would have said it. However, reading someones post that i do not know I read it how I think that they would have said it. Sometimes I am way of and ask another member how they interpuited it.

So I hope this helps.:)

WhereRWe?
05-18-2006, 06:14 PM
Apparently I haven't had enough time to grow any new layers of skin...

I've been asking myself how to interpret this post. There is so much meaning that's lost when we post on these forums. I'll bet if we were together, having a conversation, I wouldn't have any trouble at all. Here, as three words posted on a forum, I struggle.

It would be so easy to take this as a personal jab in a very negative light; in fact, that was my first thought.

I might also take this as a good-natured attempt at humor - after all, there are a couple of smileys at the end. But as good-natured as the attempt may be, it still comes at my expense.

I asked myself how this post builds a friendship or this community or how it relates to the topic at hand. I don't have an answer.

I'm sure I was probably asking for it... a little self-deprecating humor usually leaves the door wide open for others.

So I ask, how should I interpret this post? Does this build community in some way? Does it relate to the topic at hand? Please help me understand.

Thanks, Barry


Sheesh! Chill! Come people want to get cerebral. some just want to have a good time. DO NOT try and think through anything posted on an internet forum.

So, you think you have a thin skin. Think it needs to get a little thicker? I agree.

Do I care about "building community"? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Cache Maine
05-18-2006, 06:14 PM
Cameo, you read my mind. When I dream of that rich benefactor setting me up for my professional caching career, that new Toyota is what I picture as my geobuggy:D


http://www.geocachingmaine.org/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1368/limit/last1

<insert beautiful pic of 2007 Black Cherry Pearl FJ Cruiser here>

Some days, I just can't figure out the whole picture insert thing....*sigh*

gpsxplr
05-18-2006, 07:07 PM
Rick, this looks like this could be a heck of a lot of fun. I've tentatively put it in my schedule, though it is right around the time we start back up at school--also Brad usually has his Last Cache Bashe around this time.

It would be cool if we could find a couple other people to go with and split gas.

I have no idea why many folks are negative about something new (at least new to us). Like Mom said, how do you know you won't like it if you don't try it.

I would be happy to be on the team (if you will have me). I would be happy to pay the gas bill, it couldn't really be that much. My Saturn (seats 5) goes about 300 miles on a tank (25-35 bucks). And of course going for a drive is one of my favorite things to do.

I can't of course predict what might be going on in mid august but I should be able to make it. Certainly work shouldn't be a problems since I am on flexible schedule and work at home.

Let me know.

Kirk (GPSXPLR)

kayakerinme
05-18-2006, 07:13 PM
Sheesh! Chill! Come people want to get cerebral. some just want to have a good time. DO NOT try and think through anything posted on an internet forum.

So, you think you have a thin skin. Think it needs to get a little thicker? I agree.

Do I care about "building community"? :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I guess I was trying to much to be nice. Fine. That remark hurt. I believe it was disrespectful and not necessary. I feel like someone took a knife and wiggled around it in my wound just a little more. Unlike others, I don't know you well enough to know what your intention was. I wanted to know more about it. In the end, I guess it's because you can (it's America) and because you don't think I ought to think about it when I read it. Yuck.

becket
05-18-2006, 07:16 PM
http://www.geocachingmaine.org/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1368/limit/last1

<insert beautiful pic of 2007 Black Cherry Pearl FJ Cruiser here>

Some days, I just can't figure out the whole picture insert thing....*sigh*

wow, cameoooooo! i could use one of them, too! and whereRwe, i see you are still wearing your external antenna defiantly. i'm glad! :D

WhereRWe?
05-18-2006, 07:24 PM
and whereRwe, i see you are still wearing your external antenna defiantly. i'm glad! :D

Sheesh! I can be as definite as the next guy! (Maybe...) :D :D

Hiram357
05-18-2006, 07:57 PM
http://www.geocachingmaine.org/gallery/showphoto.php/photo/1368/limit/last1

<insert beautiful pic of 2007 Black Cherry Pearl FJ Cruiser here>

Some days, I just can't figure out the whole picture insert thing....*sigh*

the whole picture wont load???? i can see it as a thumbnail, but the it doesnt load as the full pic... what gives? :(

LaughingTerry
05-19-2006, 12:18 AM
When I dream of that rich benefactor setting me up for my professional caching career, that new Toyota is what I picture as my geobuggy:D


I decided I wanted one too but then I did a little research and found out they only get around 18 to 22 MPG. I really wanted one one too but my Geo-mobile needs to get around 30 MPG.

As for this event, it sounds fun but this time of year I work every weekend. *sigh* once again life intrudes.

WhereRWe?
05-19-2006, 07:16 AM
I guess I was trying to much to be nice. Fine. That remark hurt. I believe it was disrespectful and not necessary. I feel like someone took a knife and wiggled around it in my wound just a little more. Unlike others, I don't know you well enough to know what your intention was. I wanted to know more about it. In the end, I guess it's because you can (it's America) and because you don't think I ought to think about it when I read it. Yuck.

Yup. You don't know me, and obviously have absoloutely no idea what my intent is. Most of the cachers who are "regulars" here know me as a harmless, loveable fuzzball. ;) ;)

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and enjoy life. :D :D

Trezurs*-R-*Fun
05-19-2006, 07:21 AM
Yup. You don't know me, and obviously have absoloutely no idea what my intent is. Most of the cachers who are "regulars" here know me as a harmless, loveable fuzzball. ;) ;)

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and enjoy life. :D :D



I've even seen WhereRWe? smile once at an event! :eek: The W5 event! It's true, I wouldn't kid anyone about that. I wanted to get a picture but I wasn't quick enough. :D :D :D LOL !!!!

WhereRWe?
05-19-2006, 07:25 AM
I've even seen WhereRWe? smile once at an event! :eek: The W5 event! It's true, I wouldn't kid anyone about that. I wanted to get a picture but I wasn't quick enough. :D :D :D LOL !!!!

Yeah - we did have fun at the WWWWWW (6 w's) - even though there were a million people crowded into a small room - (and one group that couldn't find the rest of us. LOL!)

firefighterjake
05-19-2006, 08:22 AM
I believe we have the makings of a Northern Cache Rally on our hands! I'll have to check out the jeepforum... :D :D :D

Would Toyota 4Runners be allowed . . . they're a real 4WD vehicle too (lots of ground clearance, made to go off road -- unlike some SUVs and I have taken it off road on a few occasions -- just nothing too wild or crazy since I'm still paying it off.)

Cache Maine
05-19-2006, 08:43 AM
I decided I wanted one too but then I did a little research and found out they only get around 18 to 22 MPG. I really wanted one one too but my Geo-mobile needs to get around 30 MPG.



That's a great deal! Since I currently get about 13 mpg, anything is an improvement! :rolleyes: I saw a grey one yesterday...it was gorgeous! *sigh*

firefighterjake
05-19-2006, 08:57 AM
That's a great deal! Since I currently get about 13 mpg, anything is an improvement! :rolleyes: I saw a grey one yesterday...it was gorgeous! *sigh*

I think I'll stick with my 4Runner . . . it doesn't get very good gas mileage, but it's plenty roomy and is made to go off-road. The FJ reminds me too much of my ol' Jeep Wrangler.

Hiram357
05-19-2006, 03:24 PM
I've even seen WhereRWe? smile once at an event! :eek: The W5 event! It's true, I wouldn't kid anyone about that. I wanted to get a picture but I wasn't quick enough. :D :D :D LOL !!!!

haha, ya gotta be quick, bruce on film is very rare... i hear that bigfoot has a few sketchy pictures of him too... :D :p :rolleyes:

Hiram357
05-19-2006, 03:25 PM
Would Toyota 4Runners be allowed . . . they're a real 4WD vehicle too (lots of ground clearance, made to go off road -- unlike some SUVs and I have taken it off road on a few occasions -- just nothing too wild or crazy since I'm still paying it off.)

Sure J! (hopefully I'll have my winch by then.... Just kidding) I think anything that would be ATV trail worthy would be acceptable. (I think I'll start a new thread about this so that we dont hijack this thread about it)