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Haffy
11-22-2007, 09:01 AM
Here is a good article about responsible caching and makes a good starter for all the newbies as well.

http://www.outdoors.org/publications/outdoors/2007/responsible-geocaching.cfm

bmeserve
11-22-2007, 11:30 AM
Great article! Thanks for sharing :)

al'Thor
11-22-2007, 01:17 PM
Thanks for sharing!!!

Cache Maine
11-22-2007, 01:53 PM
Writers need to get their stories straight before they publish articles like this...part of the following statement is absolutely untrue...


It starts with a cursory check performed by representatives from www.geocaching.com (http://www.geocaching.com) prior to posting coordinates. Caches have to be on public land, and there is an effort to keep them away from more dangerous areas such as bridges or railroad tracks.

Some of the best caches that I have found (and placed!) are on private land where permission has been obtained.

WhereRWe?
11-22-2007, 03:39 PM
Writers need to get their stories straight before they publish articles like this...part of the following statement is absolutely untrue...

As you imply - the author is a writer, not a geocacher! LOL!

Mainiac1957
11-22-2007, 03:48 PM
No need to mislead the Newbies.:rolleyes: ;)

darterkitfox
11-22-2007, 04:23 PM
I found one of Gob-lers on a bridge in Minot today. Does that mean it shouldn't be there? Guess I better read the whole article.

Cache Maine
11-22-2007, 05:21 PM
I found one of Gob-lers on a bridge in Minot today. Does that mean it shouldn't be there? Guess I better read the whole article.

Not necessarily. Precautions are taken to ensure the safety of cachers while attempting to find caches located near railroads and bridges. I assume that the owner of the cache and the cache reviewer discussed the placement before it was published on the site. Which cache are you referring to DKF?

darterkitfox
11-22-2007, 07:24 PM
I think it was called Little Androscoggin. Completely safe. You are more likely to get hurt on a trail in the woods than on this bridge. You would think that railroad tracks would be safe but look how often people get killed. It is like that blue collar comedy tour when they ask how someone gets hit by a train. Just step left or right.

darterkitfox
11-22-2007, 07:27 PM
by the way, who do you complain about a cache to? I found a cache that everyone since June has mentioned in the log that the cache and log is soaked. It was still the same the other day. Owner doesn't seem to care. Message to owner is unanswered. This just makes me mad. I almost just took the cache out of the woods but resisted.

Cache Maine
11-22-2007, 08:55 PM
The best way to go about this is to post a "Needs Maintenance" note directly on the cache page. In order to do this, click on "log this cache" and in the top dropdown menu, choose "needs maintenance." In your log, describe exactly what you know by stating facts about the log being wet, etc...whatever the case may be. This will put the owner on formal "notice" that it needs to be checked. It is necessary to give the owner a while to respond since you never know what the scenario is with that person, a month is usually the best guideline. If nothing is done after a month, there are two options. You can decide to post a "needs archived" note since the owner has not responded to the requests for maintenance, or you may also take it upon yourself to fix the cache yourself. If it happens to be nearby and it's a really great cache that is worthy of the placement, I would highly suggest the latter, if you can do it. If not, a note on the forum here might yield another local cacher that could help. It's a fine line between helping and fulltime maintenance on a cache.

It would be unfortunate to have a cache archived for the sole reason of a wet log...but sometimes it does happen.

All the scenarios are different, and it's up to you how you would like to handle it. I think it's important to keep the caches here in Maine in the best condition possible...for the pleasure of cachers here and our visitors from away.

WhereRWe?
11-23-2007, 08:37 AM
It would be unfortunate to have a cache archived for the sole reason of a wet log...but sometimes it does happen.


A lot of experienced cachers - RULOST2? and I do - carry extra notebooks and plastic bags to replace waterlogged logs. Doesn't cost much, and sure helps both the cache owner and the next cacher to come along.

We also clean out any soaked signature cards and other moldy paper items.

:D :D

brdad
11-23-2007, 09:18 AM
Writers need to get their stories straight before they publish articles like this...part of the following statement is absolutely untrue...

Some of the best caches that I have found (and placed!) are on private land where permission has been obtained.

I would assume this was a bad way of stating that caches need to be placed on land available to the public. Getting permission to place a cache on private property makes it available to the caching public at minimal. On the other side, there are public areas with potions within which are off limits to the public.

I find myself catching incorrectly used phrases often, like recently I bought something online and the receipt said "Open boxes are not returnable and subject to a 25% restocking fee". I'm going to pay them 25% for them not to take it back????

WhereRWe?
11-23-2007, 10:39 AM
I would assume this was a bad way of stating that caches need to be placed on land available to the public. Getting permission to place a cache on private property makes it available to the caching public at minimal.

I know we're pretty uncomfortable going to caches that say "placed with landowners permission. They like to watch cachers come and go". :( :(

I remember one cache in the Jonesport area - you literally had to make your way into the backyard of a house in a residential area...

Mainiac1957
11-23-2007, 12:17 PM
I remember one cache in the Jonesport area - you literally had to make your way into the backyard of a house in a residential area...

I passed on that one for just that very reason.

Kaching Karen
11-23-2007, 05:54 PM
If you are talking about the "Appletree Cache," I went to it and met the lady who maintains it and owns the propertyl She has a really interesting yard. It's definitly planned for people to enjoy.

Haffy
11-23-2007, 06:29 PM
I thought you did that one Brad?

hollora
11-23-2007, 08:23 PM
If you are talking about the "Appletree Cache," I went to it and met the lady who maintains it and owns the propertyl She has a really interesting yard. It's definitly planned for people to enjoy.

I believe that is the one......and I shyed away too. It was early in my caching and I wasn't real sure about access. Then again, I have the GPSr that is a few 100' behind most folks LOL! Had heard the cache owner was really nice and enjoyed visitors.

If I remember correctly, this cache page clearly stated it was in someones yard. This allows the cacher the choice of to visit or not. I have one on the edge of my property but can no view it from my house.

As long as the cache page clearly states the circumstances, I'm ok with some of these non-traditional cache placements (with permission).

Sudonim
11-23-2007, 08:28 PM
I did visit that cache, but my concern was that standing at the end of the driveway, I wasn't sure which of TWO driveways to walk down. I finally decided LEFT, and got it right. Felt a little odd until I saw the cache though...

hollora
11-23-2007, 08:39 PM
I did visit that cache, but my concern was that standing at the end of the driveway, I wasn't sure which of TWO driveways to walk down. I finally decided LEFT, and got it right. Felt a little odd until I saw the cache though...

Wow - Andy - I hear you there - my old GPSr would probably have given me the same fits.........decisions we all have to make!