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dí76
03-31-2008, 10:28 AM
I need a little help. I got a bogus email the other day thanking me for my purchase of an ipod through paypal. I dont even have or use paypal. I went to there contact us webpage and you have to log on to get the phone number. Could someone with an account please log on and pm me the phone number. I have forwarded the info to spoof but they didnt give me any info weather this was going to be deducted form my account.

Thanks in advance

attroll
03-31-2008, 10:31 AM
I am a little confused. If you do not have or use paypal then how are they going to deduct it from an account you don't have?

If this is the case I would not worry about it.

brdad
03-31-2008, 10:56 AM
The email was most likely sent in order to lure you into a bogus paypal site. If you did have a paypal account and had entered your info, they would have been able to use your login to access your account and do as they wished.

Just going to the bogus site they could have put spyware on your system. More than likely, they just wanted your paypal info. These people will use bank names, ebay, and other business names to lure you in.

Paypal's phone system only lets registered users call them - you have to log in, they give you a temporary pin number and the number to call or email. I believe they will refuse calls or email not originating from the ones listed in your account records. I do find it odd there is no readily available contact information for non-members, however! I did find one phone number that might get you in, 1-888-221-1161.

If you want to make sure no one created an account using your email, just go to paypal.com where you log in and click the "forgot password" link. From there, enter your email address they will attempt to send you an email with a password. If someone did create an account under your email, you will be able to log in using that password and alert paypal. If your email is not connected to a paypal account, you will get an error message they the account was not found.

I get these emails a lot, and every once in a while they appear to come from a business that I do do business with, often claiming there is a need to change my account information. Many of the ebay ones claim someone has a question about an item I am selling, which I am not selling at all. They just want your login info. You have to be very careful when you get these things.

Depending on your email application, you can sometimes spot these bogus companies. When you hold your mouse over the link you are supposed to go to in the email, it usually shows the location of that link in the status bar at the bottom of the email program. if the account is from paypal, it should say something like www.paypal.com/login/etc./etc./. If it's a bogus link it's often something like 187.234.23.1/paypal/account/etc./etc. , or paypal.bogus_site.com/etc./etc.. Unfortunately, you can't rely on that all the time.

Your best bet in all cases is to call them directly (not using the phone number that might be in the email!) or just go to the actual web site using the real URL. If they have a need for you to change your information, they will prompt you to do so there.

Sudonim
03-31-2008, 11:01 AM
Sounds like phishing season to me.

WhereRWe?
03-31-2008, 11:14 AM
Also, if you get emails like this from either PayPal or eBay, you can forward the email to spoof@paypal.com or spoof@ebay.com. Be sure and include all hearders.

WhereRWe?
03-31-2008, 11:15 AM
Sounds like phishing season to me.

There is NO closed season on phishing! LOL!

Sudonim
03-31-2008, 11:33 AM
Be sure and include all hearders.

...Moo? :p

dí76
03-31-2008, 01:55 PM
Thanks everyone, I just spoke with paypal using the info that BRDad provided and it is infact a fake.
I am not easly fooled and would like to think that I am smarter then that however it looked pretty damn real. Infact I was heading down to my bank just before I called them to put a stop payment on anything from paypal. It was going to cost 25 bucks but that is better then the alternative. On thing that the woman that I spoke with mentioned is that if it was infact from paypal it would have said Dear David ******, not dear paypal member and that is how mine started. So, thankfully that scare is over and thanks for your help folks.

Hiram357
03-31-2008, 02:43 PM
Thanks everyone, I just spoke with paypal using the info that BRDad provided and it is infact a fake.
I am not easly fooled and would like to think that I am smarter then that however it looked pretty damn real. Infact I was heading down to my bank just before I called them to put a stop payment on anything from paypal. It was going to cost 25 bucks but that is better then the alternative. On thing that the woman that I spoke with mentioned is that if it was infact from paypal it would have said Dear David ******, not dear paypal member and that is how mine started. So, thankfully that scare is over and thanks for your help folks.

I for one speak in favor of Dave, he showed me the e-mail and it looked exactly like a paypal receipt, it was very well done to look legit. kinda scary the scams those people think of... :mad:

brdad
03-31-2008, 03:07 PM
I for one speak in favor of Dave, he showed me the e-mail and it looked exactly like a paypal receipt, it was very well done to look legit. kinda scary the scams those people think of... :mad:

That's the problem, and when you click the link it takes you to a page that looks just like the actual web site.

Mainiac1957
03-31-2008, 03:07 PM
I have had on more than one occasion received an e-mail saying it was pay pal. I too looked at them with suspicion. Especially when they come to an address that I don't use with them. I have been a member there since 2001 and have had no problem with Pay Pal itself. Scammers are everywhere unfortunately. Glad you caught it Dave.

Sudonim
03-31-2008, 03:11 PM
I got one just like that about a year ago, called paypal pretty mad about it. They told me it was a fake and I forwarded the letter to their fraud department.
The big tip-off is "Is this addressed to 'my name' or dear member". I've seen this with Bank of America letters too.

WhereRWe?
03-31-2008, 04:22 PM
...Moo? :p

Baa... :o:o

hollora
03-31-2008, 10:29 PM
Any yes, I, too, saw the email and said to forward it to spoof - that is looked wrong. Glad you got this resolved Dave - I told you - it wasn't the real kahuna........

Never can be to careful.

attroll
04-01-2008, 02:09 AM
The rule of thumb is to never reply to anything that looks like Paypal. Paypal will even tell you that they do not send out emails.

Saint367
04-01-2008, 04:17 AM
I look into numerous of these a year for my job, and they are all scams and phishing expeditions. Fortuantly we've educated the public in the area fairly well and the complaints have slowed down in dealing with these emails. Glad you didn't fall for it and give any information up.

brdad
04-04-2008, 02:04 PM
Lee tuned me onto a couple cute commercials and other phishing information at this web site: http://onguardonline.gov/index.html. Of course, since Dave has reached the end of the internet, he has probably already been here. :rolleyes:

WhereRWe?
04-04-2008, 03:49 PM
Of course, since Dave has reached the end of the internet, he has probably already been here. :rolleyes:

I'll bet he skipped a few pages... ;);)