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Opalsns
05-08-2008, 01:26 PM
There has been a Racoon coming around at night this spring.He has been eating the left over winter bird seed and whatever else he digs up in the yard. Last weekend we were doing yard clean up and opened the lawnmower shed to get tools. We found that said Racoon was a SHE and had a litter of 5 or 6 under her. The poor thing started yakin away all upset. We got what we needed and I talked to her calmly, like I did when I first saw her in the yard, and she calmed down. We shut the shed and left her be. At night she goes in and out through the eaves of the shed and down a pine tree.I reserched and found that the babes were probabally just born and she won't be weening them for 2 to 4 months. THEN, they stay with the mother in her home till next spring. Now, I don't mind them being there till July or so, but after that I would like my shed back. We live in the woods with part of our property being a marsh. Lots of wildlife here,which we love and we know there is enough of what they need to survive out there. I don't want to scare her off now for fear she'll get killed and leave the litter for us to tend to.But I also know the destruction they can cause when they get bigger. I figure when I see them going in and out,it will be time to scare them off. But I'm no expert so any advise would be appreciated.
Thanx
Opalsns and BubbaBass:eek::(:confused::o

brdad
05-08-2008, 01:36 PM
I'd say find an animal control person and have them trapped and moved ASAP. Coons can be very destructive and carry rabies and diseases and ticks and who knows what they are doing to your shed. You could have easily been bitten. If there are kids there, I'd be even more concerned.

hollora
05-08-2008, 01:46 PM
brdad is right about rabies. Wildlife do carry unique concerns.

An animal control person is definitely obligated to help you but not necessarily trained to work with wildlife. You need to contact a wildlife rehabilitator.

I just placed a cache at Hirundo Wildlife Refuge, after long work with them to get permission. The caretakers of the refuge are wildlife rehabilitators. They actually raise and foster abandoned babies. Their house pet is an injured grey squirril.

There is a link to their website (Users Web Page) on the cache page (GC1BY13) - I would suggest you contact them ASAP or the Warden Service. If you can't connect PM me.

One thing Debbie, the caretaker did tell me is, Do Not touch even an abandoned baby animal but contact a rehabilitator. Most folks do the wrong things, trying to help because they don't know and the babies die anyway. I did not know this and was thankful for the advice.

Good luck.

TRF
05-08-2008, 01:55 PM
I agree with Davbe (Brdad). They need to be removed. Call DIF&W and they will recommend a wildlife rehab./transition person for you. It's a great gesture to let them stay but they are destructive and I assure you the mother will be more of a pain in the arse once the kits put a larger demand for food on her. I have the racoons raid my chicken coop and by the end of June they graduate from stealing eggs to killing the hens. I have to "secure" the coop after the chickens roost. My method of removal is more permanent but they are very intelligent and being nocturnal they are very rarely seen by us or the dog. The dog would chase them off but he's too busy sleeping when they come. I believe I have one racoon that thinks we are a division of KFC, she/he has been around for several years and I can't seem to catch him/her. (I've removed many) Once they realize they have easy food, they will not leave.

Like Dave said, have her and her kits removed. There are state approved wildlife rehab./transition places located throughout the state. There is one on Rt.3 in Vassalboro, I think his name is Cote but the DIF&W will positively help you out..

Good luck

I have a story about a skunk too...that skunk loved chicken. After live trapping a skunk a night for a week and transporting it several miles from the house each time, I had an epiphany. After a week of contiuous live trapping I painted its tail Orange, took it several miles away and dropped it off. You guessed it, it traveled back and I caught it the very next night. I finally bought the skunk to Augusta and dropped it off. I haven't seen it since... LOL

firefighterjake
05-08-2008, 01:59 PM
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I have a story about a skunk too...that skunk loved chicken. After live trapping a skunk a night for a week and transporting it several miles from the house each time, I had an epiphany. After a week of contiuous live trapping I painted its tail Orange, took it several miles away and dropped it off. You guessed it, it traveled back and I caught it the very next night. I finally bought the skunk to Augusta and dropped it off. I haven't seen it since... LOL

A skunk in Augusta? This explains some of the politicians that we have running the State. . . . ;):D

Hiram357
05-08-2008, 03:16 PM
I agree with dave, they're destructive, carry rabies, ect ect... although they are cute with those lil black masks... :D:D

but if it was me, I'd hafta put my feelings towards their cuteness aside and spend about 6cents per coon. (they are destructive lil buggers, and if they go unchecked can lead to a lot more serious problems then just a tipped over trash can) :D

Opalsns
05-08-2008, 05:41 PM
Thanx to everyone for your suggestions. I agree that it'll be better and alot easier to remove them while the babes are little and the Mom is with them so I have taken Hollora's advice and called Hirundo Wildlife Refuge. I left a message and hope they will return my call soon. If they can't help I will call DIF&W... What does that stand for exactly????
We had a skunk living under the same shed last year. Don't know if he's still there or not.
I think we're going to tear down the shed and put the yard equipment on the summer porch for the winter. I hate paying taxes to store lawn mowers and since these animals pay no rent.........LOL!!!
Thanx again for the advice.
Opalsns

TRF
05-08-2008, 05:45 PM
DIF&W=Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife

Opalsns
05-08-2008, 07:41 PM
DIF&W=Department of Inland Fisheries and Wildlife

Oh yeah, I forgot. Thanx.
Hoping to get them moved by The Hirundo people first. Will let you know how it goes!!!!:o
Opalsns

attroll
05-09-2008, 03:12 AM
I agree you should contact someone if you want it removed. The raccoon thing about rabies is a old wise tail though. Granted they can carry rabies but no more then a skunk or rabbit or any other wild animal.

brdad
05-09-2008, 06:47 AM
I agree you should contact someone if you want it removed. The raccoon thing about rabies is a old wise tail though. Granted they can carry rabies but no more then a skunk or rabbit or any other wild animal.

Just because they are found in other animals as well does not mean it should still not be a concern. The percentage of animals found with rabies has increased with time. The possibility still exists.

Opalsns
05-09-2008, 07:58 AM
One thing to remember, RABIES can't make BABIES !!!! (Animal Planet)

attroll
05-10-2008, 02:56 AM
Just because they are found in other animals as well does not mean it should still not be a concern. The percentage of animals found with rabies has increased with time. The possibility still exists.
That was my point Dave. It is not just Racoons that carry it.

Opalsns
05-10-2008, 09:54 AM
UPDATE!!!!!
At the suggestion of The Hirundo Wildlife Refuge Center... The Raccon stays untill the kits eyes are open... a couple of weeks ...Then we will make her living quarters... Uncomfortable for her and she SHOULD move, kits and cobutal. It's easy to make alot more noise in the yard now that we are outside daily. We will hang a radio in the shed with a talk show station and leave it play. She'll hate it and leave. Hopefully. If this doesn't work. they will Come get them out...
Stay Tuned Folks,
Opalsns

WhereRWe?
05-10-2008, 10:01 AM
I catch 5-6 raccoons a year in my catch-'em-alive trap. I usually drop them 4-5 miles from home with the hope that their range is less than that.

One year however, I just took one across the river and let it go. Sure enough, it ran right down the bank, into the river, and started swimming back.

Sheesh! :o:o

(Three or four years ago, I also caught a possum. I showed it around to a lot of old timers before I let it go - they'd never seen a possum in Maine! LOL!)

Haffy
05-10-2008, 05:16 PM
I see all kinds of em down here,unfortunately or fortunately however you look at it they are mostly roadkills. I did encounter one a couple of months ago in our backyard and tried to befriend it but when he showed his teeth that was my introduction to the mean little beasties.... and I'll stay clear of em from now on...:eek:

bmeserve
05-16-2008, 01:46 PM
I have a major issue with squirrels in my attic....yeah lots of fun in the winter time to hear them run back and forth ....

anyways when I talked to the people about getting rid of them they said i'd have to take them over 20 miles away otherwise they'd come back??? seriously???? I don't even know if I could find my way back if someone dropped me 20 miles from home HAHA

firefighterjake
05-16-2008, 03:10 PM
:D
I have a major issue with squirrels in my attic....yeah lots of fun in the winter time to hear them run back and forth ....

anyways when I talked to the people about getting rid of them they said i'd have to take them over 20 miles away otherwise they'd come back??? seriously???? I don't even know if I could find my way back if someone dropped me 20 miles from home HAHA

Squirrels in the attic . . . is that like bats in the belfry? ;):D

I had an issue with gray squirrels getting into my attic a few winters ago -- turned out they were getting in through a broken vent in my attic. Fixed that by stapling some heavy gauge wire on the vent entrance and that fixed the problem -- now all I need is some way to persuade the little buggers from getting into my birdfeeder (I've covered the post with sheet metal . . . which worked well until the little buggers began leaping on to the birdfeeder from the nearby porch . . . moved the birdfeeder further away with the help of Hiram last Fall . . . now the squirrels simply go to my roof and leap on to the birdfeeder like some kind of crazed sky diver -- my wife's suggestion to attach a large spike to the top and impale them like shiskabobs just doesn't sound very appealing to me . . . and adding red pepper to the birdseed on one person's advice simply gave the squirrels a little added seasoning to their daily buffet meal.) :D

bmeserve
05-16-2008, 03:36 PM
ROFLMAO


Yeah they are getting through a hole in my eves but I'm afraid that if I patch it up there will still be some on the inside and well in a few weeks you'll know what will come next and the attic isn't really an attic it's just a space between the ceiling and the roof which is about as big for only a squirrel :) Funny thing is they don't touch my birdfeeders.....go figure.

Sudonim
05-16-2008, 03:44 PM
Hey Jake, I hear that if you leash a monkey to the bird feeder, it will keep away the squirrels :D

Haffy
05-16-2008, 06:12 PM
anyways when I talked to the people about getting rid of them they said i'd have to take them over 20 miles away otherwise they'd come back??? seriously???? I don't even know if I could find my way back if someone dropped me 20 miles from home HAHA


By any chance you don't have a Magellan do you?.....;):eek::D

WhereRWe?
05-16-2008, 06:54 PM
I see all kinds of em down here,unfortunately or fortunately however you look at it they are mostly roadkills. I did encounter one a couple of months ago in our backyard and tried to befriend it but when he showed his teeth that was my introduction to the mean little beasties.... and I'll stay clear of em from now on...:eek:

Sheesh, Haffy! I thought that down there, "Raccoon Stew" was the main course most of the time? :confused::confused:

Kacky
05-18-2008, 08:17 PM
I'll add my 2 cents to ask that you not transport any animal yourself because you might end up in my backyard. Let an animal control officer do it because they know where to bring it without it becoming someone else's problem!

firefighterjake
05-19-2008, 07:23 AM
Hey Jake, I hear that if you leash a monkey to the bird feeder, it will keep away the squirrels :D

Really . . . now all I have to do is find one of those rarely seen Maine monkeys . . . or import some from St. Kitts. :D:D:D

In reality I don't have a monkey, but I do have a Lucky -- a small, plucky black cat who has this thing for chasing after squirrels even though they outweigh her by a few pounds. Every once in a while when the squirrels are feeding I open the window and toss Lucky out kamikaze style at the squirrel and the squirrel starts running followed by Lucky (don't worry pet lovers . . . she really does enjoy it and we're talking low windows . . . and truth be told it was during the winter when there was snow on the ground.)

firefighterjake
05-19-2008, 07:43 AM
ROFLMAO


Yeah they are getting through a hole in my eves but I'm afraid that if I patch it up there will still be some on the inside and well in a few weeks you'll know what will come next and the attic isn't really an attic it's just a space between the ceiling and the roof which is about as big for only a squirrel :) Funny thing is they don't touch my birdfeeders.....go figure.

And now the rest of the story . . .

I first realized I had a squirrel problem when one night my wife and I were watching TV and she said she heard a noise . . . of course, my response being a normal guy in middle of watching TV was, "Noise? What noise?"

My wife insisted there was a noise coming from our upstairs bathroom so I went upstairs . . . only to find a large gray squirrel sitting on the toilet staring back at me. Figuring that he wanted some private time to do his business I quickly closed the bathroom door, went downstairs and informed my wife that we had a guest.

She was none too pleased with this development and said to do something about it . . . incidentally when I say "none too pleased" what I really mean to say is that she ran into the downstairs bedroom, jumped into the bed, pulled the covers over her head and yelled for me to get rid of the squirrel.

Once again being a male I acted on the very first thought that came into my head . . . no, no . . . I didn't get my shotgun and start shooting up the bathroom . . . instead I looked for Teddy (a little Manx cat who thinks he is a person and not a cat -- really, ask Hiram and Steph -- he was sitting in one of their seats around the campfire when they camped out at my place last year . . . and I've caught him just sitting in the chair at the dining room table as if waiting for dinner to be served). Well I tossed Teddy into the bathroom like a manager pushing a boxer into a ring, closed the door behind him and gave him what little sage advice I could come up with on how to deal with the squirrel . . . basically I simply yelled "Get 'im Teddy!"

Well when I told my wife what I had done she was even more displeased and started to yell for me to not kill the squirrel . . . whom at this point had now officially been named Rocky.

I re-entered the bathroom only to find what can best be described as some demented version of the children's song "Pop Goes the Weasel" only instead of a weasel we had a gray squirrel and a Manx cat in place of the monkey. One minute the squirrel would be sitting on the toilet . . . Teddy would go to grab the squirrel which would then leap to the sink counter top . . . at which point Teddy would go to grab him again and the squirrel would leap to the shower curtain rod . . . at which point Teddy would attempt to grab the squirrel again and it would leap back to the toilet . . . I actually watched the two go round and round for about a minute before extracting Teddy from the bathroom, shutting the door and coming up with Plan B.

Plan B can best be described as the Roman Gladiator plan . . . if you can picture me -- a short, fat balding guy in a T-shirt and jeans in place of the tall, muscle-bound armored Spartan . . . and instead of a Roman short sword, Etruscan net and shield you would need to picture me armed only with a broom, throw rug and laundry basket.

My thinking was that by lashing out with the throw rug I would be able to knock Rocky down from his perch and then put the laundry basket on top of him . . . surprisingly enough this technique actually worked the first time I used it. Unfortunately, the thing I did not consider was what to do with Rocky once I had him trapped and my first attempt to maneuver the throw rug underneath the laundry basket was a failure as Rocky escaped.
However, my second attempt was much more successful.

I removed Rocky to the outdoors and figured my problem was solved . . . until a day later when my wife once again said she heard noises coming from the attic. Rocky was back. . . .

firefighterjake
05-19-2008, 07:56 AM
Squirrel Squabble Part II.


Well now Rocky was back . . . and this time he had brought some of his friends. Now I'm an easy going guy . . . it's in my nature . . . but if you push me too hard or for too long I can be a downright irritable guy and let me tell you, I was pretty darn close to losing it and so the next day I went to Mac's Hardware and bought myself a Hav-a-Heart live animal trap.

I loaded up that trap with just about every squirrel delectable I could think of -- some apple slices, crackers slathered in crunchy peanut butter (Hannaford brand though . . . not Jiffy), cocktail peanuts . . . even threw in a can of Budweiser in case Rocky got thirsty (OK, I'm making that last part up) . . . and then when I had this buffet all loaded up in the trap I snuck up into the attic and carefully laid it out where I knew Rocky and his friends would find it.

The next morning I returned to the attic . . . only to find one full, but very angry gray squirrel. To make a long story short, I took Rocky out and this time drove a few miles away and set him free after wishing him well.

Once again I thought all was well . . . until that night when again my wife said she heard noises . . . I'm still not sure if it was Rocky or if he had brought friends, but clearly this time there was more than one squirrel making themselves at home in my attic. Once again I set the trap and once again I trapped a squirrel the next day.

This time around I was determined to make sure that Rocky would not come back . . . I say "Rocky" because I was about 90% positive that this was Rocky and not one of his carousing friends. This time I drove Rocky all the way into downtown Unity. After urging Rocky to not return and extolling the virtues of his new home -- namely the proximity to a nearby restaurant, some nice woods, etc. I set Rocky free and went inside the ambulance base where I was parked to do some paperwork.

About ten minutes later I left the ambulance building and began to drive home . . . and then dear friends is when tragedy struck . . . for you see I was driving along, croaking (clearly it was croaking, not singing) along with the radio when all of a sudden a small, gray squirrel dashed out in front of me . . . I swerved and hit the brakes . . . but alas it was too late . . . Rocky was no more . . . and so ends my tale of Rocky.

bmeserve
05-19-2008, 09:16 AM
No I don't own a magellan Haffy and OMG I think I just spit out my coffee reading your tale Jake!!!


I didn't name mine so far they haven't appeared anywhere other then my attic but they are LOUD in the winter!!! They are always so busy I plead with them constantly to get on the same sleep schedule as me but they prefer to be different I guess.

Which makes them fit into my house quite nicely!

I need to get a cat...my hound dog just wants to follow them with her head when they run above and kind of perk her ears and tilt her head and then follows that by again laying it down and burying her snout in her paws...with a slight sigh of course as if it was rude of the squirrel to interrupt her precious sleep time.

firefighterjake
05-19-2008, 09:45 AM
No I don't own a magellan Haffy and OMG I think I just spit out my coffee reading your tale Jake. . ..

It was my pleasure! :D