View Full Version : Placing caches in Maine State Parks



keydetpiper
05-03-2009, 02:06 PM
I've not placed a cache before, and I'd like to place one at a campground near home that is run by Maine Bureau of Parks and Lands. I couldn't find any policies or statements about geocaching on their website. Has anyone had difficulty placing caches on their turf? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

brdad
05-03-2009, 03:24 PM
If you can't find any information giving blanket permission to hide a cache, the best thing you could do is ask for permission.

Haffy
05-03-2009, 03:32 PM
You might want to try herehttp://http://www.maine.gov/doc/parks/contact/ContactUsForm.html

Haffy
05-03-2009, 03:34 PM
OOps that didn't work so try here: http://www.maine.gov/doc/parks/contact/index.html

Haffy
05-03-2009, 03:35 PM
Hey how come I can't edit my post just after a few seconds anyway?

WhereRWe?
05-03-2009, 03:38 PM
Hey how come I can't edit my post just after a few seconds anyway?

Because you're from South Carolina? :p:p

attroll
05-03-2009, 03:40 PM
Hey how come I can't edit my post just after a few seconds anyway?
Only donating member can edit there own posts now for up to 15 days.

WhereRWe?
05-03-2009, 03:40 PM
I've not placed a cache before, and I'd like to place one at a campground near home that is run by Maine Bureau of Parks and Lands. I couldn't find any policies or statements about geocaching on their website. Has anyone had difficulty placing caches on their turf? Any suggestions?

Thanks!

I've never placed on in a park, but I've talked to park attendants about caches that we looked for that were located in their parks.

The impression I got was that they want you to ask permission, but usually will let you place a cache. This was 2-3 years ago, though, so maybe policies have changed. Like Brdad said - ask. :D:D

keydetpiper
05-03-2009, 04:26 PM
Good info, thanks. I talked to the woman behind the desk at the campground, and she was going to have someone from the Rec Council (who immediately oversee the campground) give me a call. I'll be keeping my fingers crossed.

hollora
05-03-2009, 06:16 PM
Fort Knox State Park the Park Ranger must grant permission. I would suspect most of them are the same.

Are there caches in State Parks where permission was not granted or ever obtained? I suspect quite probably.

Should new caches placed - permission be obtained? Absolutely.

You have made your first contact. Wishing you the best for a successful result and a hospitable reception. Job well done with your approach.

If it's not approved don't be discouraged. Just ask why and go from there.

Ekidokai
05-03-2009, 06:19 PM
Fort Knox State Park the Park Ranger must grant permission. I would suspect most of them are the same.

Are there caches in State Parks where permission was not granted or ever obtained? I suspect quite probably.

Should new caches placed - permission be obtained? Absolutely.

You have made your first contact. Wishing you the best for a successful result and a hospitable reception. Job well done with your approach.

If it's not approved don't be discouraged. Just ask why and go from there.

Well aren't you something.

dubord207
05-03-2009, 07:44 PM
That was totally uncalled for, Mike! Lois was giving good info to a cacher asking legitimate questions. Lighten up! You owe her an apology!:(




Well aren't you something.

Ekidokai
05-03-2009, 11:50 PM
Whoa, whoa whoa. I meant what I said. I think she is something indeed.

Let me tell you a few things...

A few months ago when I had first started I was looking for a cache and posted a DNF on it. Out of nowhere came this email from someone I didn't know offering help. She even went out of her way the next day and checked to see if it was there. It was, and she gave me a hint. I went out again and still could not find it. Now I'll tell you something very special, she had gone so far as to bring up my profile and look at my pictures and then she happened to be going by and recognized me from that research and stopped to help. I was a little too quick and had just left so I missed her. Needless to say I still couldn't find it. After a couple of more emails and going back a couple more times with even more hints I finally found it. I still would not have found it to this day without her help because up until just recently I had not thought about asking for a hint from anyone even the owner. It was a very hard one, especially for a green horn. To top it all off the cache wasn't even hers.

Another amazing thing to me...

4 new caches popped up on the site up in Orono. Several of the FTF crew went up and could not find them. Some had tried more than once. It was looking like a hoax. Some how she found the person that put the caches out and figured out what was wrong. She had figured out that the person was using the wrong Datrum and went again out her way to go and help with the placement and listing. I figured like most everyone else that it was a hoax but she not only figured it out, she helped fix it.

Ask just about any question and she has an answer. She seems to have her finger on anything that is going on anywhere. I don't know how she does it.

And on, and on, and on. So many things that I could go on for a long time.

Please don't read something into what I write. I'm a person that is not offended easily. I can't remember being offended by anything someone said or did. I just kind of take things as they are. So I live that way and I'm shocked when I offend someone. I just can't make the connection most of the time.

Now all that being said...

I am sincerely sorry to Lois Ann for offending you by not stating things in a way that was proper. I do think you are something.


Fort Knox State Park the Park Ranger must grant permission. I would suspect most of them are the same.

Are there caches in State Parks where permission was not granted or ever obtained? I suspect quite probably.

Should new caches placed - permission be obtained? Absolutely.

You have made your first contact. Wishing you the best for a successful result and a hospitable reception. Job well done with your approach.

If it's not approved don't be discouraged. Just ask why and go from there.


Well aren't you something.


That was totally uncalled for, Mike! Lois was giving good info to a cacher asking legitimate questions. Lighten up! You owe her an apology!:(

dubord207
05-04-2009, 06:26 AM
Fair enough and thanks for responding. I didn't want to start a fight but I know Lois took it wrong as well. That's the thing about the web and this site. You just never know what the "words" mean without the benefit of hearing the voice and reacting to the manner in which those words are spoken. Glad you clarified what you really meant.

masterson of the universe
05-04-2009, 08:39 AM
State parks may require more than a ranger's permission. I, along with everyone else in my family aside from my mom, worked at Colonial Pemaquid for 4 summers and we found there was one there the whole time without our knowledge. Not a big deal looking back because they didn't disrupt the history or anything and they weren't in an area where one could get harmed in searching. GCGD6X was placed with no permission but has been ok'd by each new manager that comes in. While my dad still rangers there, he has the two existing caches in the park ok'd with each new manager that comes in. While he likes the fact that they are there and can watch people search from a distance at times, he isn't one to just say they are ok because he caches. Always have a park manager ok them just to be sure.

hollora
05-04-2009, 08:56 AM
It is always good when someone knows from experience. Unless you work in a specified field, you sometimes don't know all the "layers" of Management.

Thanks MotU for clarifying the State Parks.


State parks may require more than a ranger's permission. I, along with everyone else in my family aside from my mom, worked at Colonial Pemaquid for 4 summers and we found there was one there the whole time without our knowledge. Not a big deal looking back because they didn't disrupt the history or anything and they weren't in an area where one could get harmed in searching. GCGD6X was placed with no permission but has been ok'd by each new manager that comes in. While my dad still rangers there, he has the two existing caches in the park ok'd with each new manager that comes in. While he likes the fact that they are there and can watch people search from a distance at times, he isn't one to just say they are ok because he caches. Always have a park manager ok them just to be sure.

keydetpiper
05-04-2009, 09:05 AM
I appreciate everyone's feedback on this issue. I have some ideas for caches, but finding the time to go out and get everything in place can be tricky sometimes.

Haffy
05-04-2009, 09:25 AM
Sometimes I think it would be easier for everyone involved if there were a specific blanket policy for caching in all state parks. I know down here in my specific county in particular( Lancaster county where I live) they have a blanket policy for all the parks and recreation areas and geocachers have pretty much free reign on placing caches in them.Took some time but it was well worth the effort to get them accepted and now most all of the LCPR have at least one cache in them. LCPR? (Lancaster County Parks and Recreation Department)

masterson of the universe
05-04-2009, 10:21 AM
I would tend to think that most state park locations would be approved by staff as long as the locations don't disrupt the areas (geotrails where there weren't before). Honestly, if the park has a gate at the entrance, why would the state complain about something that brings people in? I remember my second summer, we had mandated shut down days because the state needed to make budget cuts. Any income should be welcomed these days.

tat
05-04-2009, 08:21 PM
Maine State parks have very different needs and restrictions so they cannot have the same rules. Baxter Park, for example, must abide by the terms Percival Baxter set when he gave the land to the people of Maine and likely, only Earthcaches will ever be allowed.

Most state parks seem to embrace caching. Patrick McGowan specifically listed "Geocaching" as one of the activities that are encouraged on Department of Conservation lands!

Don't be afraid to ask! You just may make a friend in the park system!