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CARoperPhotography
03-22-2010, 11:04 PM
Sometimes I randomly browse cache listings in far away states. Tonight I found this one :

http://www.geocaching.com/seek/cache_details.aspx?guid=7e519053-1e4d-46cf-a1cf-db3563733990

Does anyone else see anything odd about this? An Event Cache not scheduled to take place until April 20th 2010, and people were logging it as attended way back in 2009? What is up with these weirdos?

NativeMainer
03-22-2010, 11:12 PM
Weird. It almost looks like a multiple stage event cache, if there's ever such a thing (and I don't think there is). If you can make the tour, then you can log it as attended the event. It does seem a little iffy to me.

Ekidokai
03-22-2010, 11:15 PM
When the site was changed last the box that gives options is set to attend. If your not watching you get that. I have seen this a lot.

hollora
03-22-2010, 11:56 PM
I think you are going to find this is a cargo ship which regularly visits AK and when they are in port does tours and the local Geocachers make an event out of it. Rather than republish the whole thing it is like an ongoing event and they change the date of the visits.

Maine Publisher would have to speak as to how this meets guidelines.

I know the ship had been in just before we were in Anchorage and was coming back just after we left. We missed it.

brdad
03-23-2010, 06:18 AM
Hollora is correct. This is (in my words) a recurring event. The location of the event is constant, but they change the event date every month (give or take). The same type of event was mentioned in WhereRWe's recent An Event Idea... (http://www.geocachingmaine.org/forum/showthread.php?t=4542) thread, which I thought would be a great idea for an event sponsored by Geocaching Maine's gc.com account, but that idea got shot down by everyone. I did contact groundspeak concerning whether it met the guidelines or not and received a reply yesterday. They said having a new event each month was the "best practice" and if the local reviewer was against it then we were stuck. But they are not forbidden.

CARoperPhotography
03-23-2010, 05:40 PM
I noticed that the same cacher who hosts this event has also put on several by the same in the past which are now archived.

masterson of the universe
03-23-2010, 05:54 PM
I noticed that the same cacher who hosts this event has also put on several by the same in the past which are now archived.

Might this make you consider the note you left about people being high for logging this cache over the years? Some might take offense to it.

CARoperPhotography
03-23-2010, 06:01 PM
Not one bit, Corey! I stand by that comment. No where in the listing for this cache does it state that it is a reoccuring cache. In all honesty, the cache owner says that only 8 cachers may attend the tour, no more. This honestly seems like exclusion. When you hold an event cache, all should be welcome. I don't like caches like this. Not one bit. And I think that the reviewer who allowed this to be published as it is should be removed. There are too many inconsistencies with Geocaching and reviewing. When you see caches like this, and like the one on the Space Station, I wonder about the integrity of the sport. And as you know, being offensive to some is nothing that I particularly worry about. I am bluntly honest.

hollora
03-23-2010, 06:19 PM
Not one bit, Corey! I stand by that comment. No where in the listing for this cache does it state that it is a reoccuring cache. In all honesty, the cache owner says that only 8 cachers may attend the tour, no more. This honestly seems like exclusion. When you hold an event cache, all should be welcome. I don't like caches like this. Not one bit. And I think that the reviewer who allowed this to be published as it is should be removed. There are too many inconsistencies with Geocaching and reviewing. When you see caches like this, and like the one on the Space Station, I wonder about the integrity of the sport. And as you know, being offensive to some is nothing that I particularly worry about. I am bluntly honest.

Perhaps the limit of attendees has to do with the location (more than 8 could not be accomodated on the ship). I was going to try to partake of this when we were in AK but we were there between dates. I didn't feel that I wouldn't be welcome and I clearly understood that I might not make it on ship.

Different parts of the country and World - things are different with caching. Not every area lends itself to hard and fast rules that can not be flexible. I believe that is one reason that reviewers tend to cover locales where they may become familiar with the areas they are reviewing.

Everyone has different opinions and it is that variety which may make this sport fun. Another example of - there is room for everyone and all kinds of caches (physical, event, Earth and the many others). JMHO

CARoperPhotography
03-23-2010, 06:31 PM
However there is a Groundspeak does oversea all Geocaches and does have rules regarding them. Consistency is very important.

Haffy
03-24-2010, 02:27 AM
Not one bit, Corey! I stand by that comment. No where in the listing for this cache does it state that it is a reoccuring cache. In all honesty, the cache owner says that only 8 cachers may attend the tour, no more. This honestly seems like exclusion. When you hold an event cache, all should be welcome. I don't like caches like this. Not one bit. And I think that the reviewer who allowed this to be published as it is should be removed. There are too many inconsistencies with Geocaching and reviewing. When you see caches like this, and like the one on the Space Station, I wonder about the integrity of the sport. And as you know, being offensive to some is nothing that I particularly worry about. I am bluntly honest.

Maybe you ought to consider Terracaching. They have quite a few in the Carolinas. I think at one point I was the # 1 finder of those in Maine, I had 3 out of the 6....LOL Maybe you can get a sponser>>>> LOL

brdad
03-24-2010, 06:25 AM
There are many events which are limited to a set number of people. You can only fit so many people in a given space. The only way they could make a consistent rule is to say you can't hold an event unless you can handle an unlimited amount of people and that would severely limit the number of events.

It's funny how we argue that there are too many rules in one breath and then in the next we want a rule saying there should be no limits. I've done it myself, we all have ideals about what we think would be best and what would not. But gc.com still has my vote.

brdad
03-24-2010, 06:30 AM
I don't think consistency is that important in such a silly activity. But it would make an interesting thread to have a respectful discussion on what rules one would use to make caching consistent and still make it fun for the majority.

tat
03-24-2010, 06:58 AM
The guidelines are the result of Geocacher requests! Consistency is important. So is creativity.

"At times a cache may meet the listing requirements for the site but the reviewers, as experienced cachers, may see additional concerns that you as a cache placer may not have noticed. As a courtesy, the reviewer may bring additional concerns about cache placement to your attention and offer suggestions before posting. But as the cache owner you are responsible for placement and care of your cache. "

"Note: Exceptions to the listing guidelines may occasionally be made depending on the novel nature and merits of a cache. If you have a cache idea you believe is novel, contact Groundspeak before placing and reporting it on the Geocaching.com web site."

brdad
03-24-2010, 07:05 AM
Well, ok, consistency in occasionally allowing exceptions is important! :p:p:p

firefighterjake
03-24-2010, 07:58 AM
Experience has shown me that very little in this world is black and white . . . mostly there are a lot of shades of gray . . . and technicolor. ;) :)

JustPJ66
03-24-2010, 08:40 AM
to each his own ...imho