Team V3 is seriously thinking about it. We don't even have a 4th yet. While the prizes sound nice, the journey and the experience definitely appeal to us more. Anything else is a bonus.
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Team V3 is seriously thinking about it. We don't even have a 4th yet. While the prizes sound nice, the journey and the experience definitely appeal to us more. Anything else is a bonus.
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Originally Posted by shuman road searchers
Played Friday with Di. Had three sevens! Still shot 83. You ready for me?
Played Saturday. 2 lost balls and still shot 79! I think I am ready!
I am awesome at golf. My score is always so high... Wait? Thats bad? Never mind :)
I hate it when I can't find my balls. Meet me at Rummels in Waterville tomorrow for a 8:36 AM starting time. I'm bringing my Odyssey 2 ball putter. I'll spot you four putts...the loser buys the ice cream!:)
I would love to beat you there but some of us folks have to actually work for a living! We will get our chance to try and beat the h@#l out of each other on the course or quit after 9 and drink beer the rest of the afternoon!
What a flimsy excuse..Work? Okay, I admit I have to go in tomorrow and find out what my secretaries want me to do all day.. but heck, no reason I can't sneak in a little golf here and there!:)
Rummels? You mean Giffords now. I wish it were Rummels. I worked for Rummels when he owned a part of the "Silent Woman" and he let me drive his Bentley,that was cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by dubord207
Whit was a piece of work for sure. I grew up at the corner of Silvermount and Silver Street so Rummels was just a pitching wedge away. Still great ice cream, no dining room anymore. I know that course like the back of my hand so SRS is unlikely to take me on at that track. Of course, I'm not going out to Brooks either. I think Sugarloaf would be a good neutral place for a little $25 Nassau!:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Haffy
Pitching wedge? You mean 3 wood from where you are at now....lol:DQuote:
Originally Posted by dubord207
Hmmm....last time I played, I shot in the mid-70's.
Anything hotter than that was uncomfortable. :D
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Originally Posted by dubord207
and now back to the Rallye info...go here for more info http://sites.google.com/site/mainegeorallye3
See, even with golf - it's all about the numbers! Can't it just be enough to walk around and enjoy the scenery and search out only the best and most unique holes in the ground? :D
No, golf is too cruel a game to not keep score. I think it might have been Lee Trevino who once said " Golf is a perfect way to ruin a good walk!"Quote:
Originally Posted by brdad
Now back to the geo-rally. How are the caches scored? Is there a handicap factor for those of us with AARP membership cards?
The way the rules say, it says it does no good to be early (before 4PM), but you are penalized for being late?
And I am not trying to be negative, but there seems to be a lack of information about the entire event. Many of the questions asked are asked every year.
The scoring, the time limits, examples of the caches, example scoresheet, etc..
EVERYTHING is about the numbers. We celebrate birthdays which is about he numbers, we have odometer and speedometers to keep track of those numbers, we even put numbers on our houses so people know where they live. Golf, on the otherhand, is about not beating up the person standing closest to you when you muff a shot. We all know it is always the other persons fault, especially those standing close to you, that cause you to muff your shot; cologne is to strong, to much chit-chat, etc. etc. Counting the numbers in golf is just a diversionary tactic to help take your mind off of beating up "the closest person" with your putter. It seems to work as there are not many assaults on the gold course. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by brdad
Back to the Rallye. How many 1/1 hides would be necessary, or better yet have the same point value as a 2.5/2.5 or a 5/5. I guess ultimately what I'm asking, having never done a rallye, would it behoove our team to do all 1/1's or would there be more value in doing all the "higher" rated caches that will be placed?
The scoring will not be determined until all the hiders confer and rank the caches. Tentatively, the lowest ranking real cache will score equally with the highest virtuals. Scoring may be on a ten point scale, virtuals scoring 1 to 3 or 4, caches coring 3 or 4 to 10. We have a couple caches contemplated which may be more than 10 points due to their unique requirements and time to complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by brdad
Caches will be ranked on their perceived difficulty and time to complete. For example, if you elect to do a cache that requires a hike, you will receive a higher point score than a park & grab.
You have 7 hours to complete the Rallye, getting back early is a good idea, but you get no reward for it. However, if you are late turning in your score card because you misjudged your caching time it would not be fair to accept your scores with no consideration of that fact.
We apologize for the lack of solid details, but the process is emerging. Be assured the primary goal is to have fun doing something you love. The committee will resolve all disputes in an equitable manner. Technical reliance on rules, while demonstrating unfair play will not get you far. If you are unduly competitive, this may not be for you.
If you want to have fun and push yourself, this should be your thing. The biggest prize of all, the DeLorme PN-40, will be given away in a drawing among the participants.
As to the hides, we should have puzzles, multis, traditionals and letter boxes. We will have many different terrains, including some water caches.
We will have some tricky hides and some easy hides.
We also hope to structure this as two events, the Rallye Kickoff and the Rallye Wrap UP. You do not need to run the Rallye to attend either of these events.
Hope to see a good turn out, there is still plenty of room.
Reminds me of another old joke,Quote:
Originally Posted by dubord207
Why do they call it golf?
Because all the other 4 letter words were taken.:p
The secret to shooting lower scores is..............................play less holes! I thought this thread was about the rally?! Quit derailing it Dan!
"Rally" is when you're 3 down with 4 to play and you throw a "commanche press" at your opponent. (For you non-golfers, that means whatever you were playing for, say $5.00, the next 4 holes are a separate match for $20.00!) Not for the faint of heart and usually you're out 25 at the end of the day, plus buying the drinks!Quote:
Originally Posted by shuman road searchers
Back to the rally. I figure with Di, Pat and Shotgun, we'll be about 7 over at the end of the day! Are there any real easy ones (like par 3's) where we can get an award for "closest to the cache?"
With all the golf talk...I thought maybe someone was hoping for a preview.... a 1/1 available by golf cart, placed by Lexmano ;)
I figured I would have a chance at the longest drive at the Rally of course! Probably can win low score also!:D
Are participants getting a registration confirmation e-mail? It would be horrible to show up the day of the rallye, only to find that their application wasn't received.
That is the plan! I believe she told me she had yours Phil, check your inbox soon.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by squirrelcache
The hiding committee got together last night for a preliminary look at the hides. There are more than 60 caches contemplated. Maybe as many as 7 or 8 water caches, some long trail walks (more than a mile from parking). some evil hides, some simple puzzles and some park and grabs.
After reviewing the hides I can now say with certainty, no team can do them all in the allotted time. The points are varying, with many relatively time consuming caches which reward those who go for them with higher points.
The prizes are piling up, we are amazed at the generosity being displayed by our sponsors. I enclose a link to a web page with details of rules, equipment needed or suggested and a list of our sponsors.
http://sites.google.com/site/mainegeorallye3/sponsors-3
At this moment there are 14 teams with money in, about 6 or 7 more we are expecting. Only one team from Bangor area so far, come on down folks! We have New York and Massachusetts teams coming.
The entry deadline is Saturday September 19th. Money does not need to be received by then, but we would like to know that your entry is coming. So please speak up.
I don't have any Geo Rallye experience, and haven't heard any experiences. I understand that you're supposed to stop a specified distance from the cache location if someone is there. I assume that's determined by parking!? Or is the whistle for something more than Emergency use!?
I know as an active sub-community that we do our best to abide by GC.com guidelines. In the FAQ it states that you respect other cachers opportunity at a cache by using an FRS radio, Channel 2 primary and 12 secondary. I bought into the Garmin Rhino series for this pupose, as a multi-use geocaching tool. However I've not found Anyone else that follows this, and have since had to adjust to something locally known as a Co-FTF!?
So....are we using our hi-tech knowledge and experience to make the game more fun? Or are we adding to the barrage of whistles being blown in the Maine woods during bird season, while our team members are busy running around like dogs looking to flush Something out!?
Sheesh! I like this comment - I really do! LOL! :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by squirrelcache
Do you know where you read this in the FAQ? I followed and participated in the discussion of the official FRS radio channel back in '02 and as I recall the major reason for having the radios was so that we could meet up with other cachers, not so that we could avoid them at a cache! I'm just curious how it came to be that way. I've never thought it could be disrespectful to approach another cacher at a cache....Quote:
Originally Posted by squirrelcache
I used to carry my FRS radio around all the time after the official channel was decided on, but it never connected me with another cacher. Then again, There were probably less than 25 people who cached on a regular basis back then and probably less then 5 paid attention to the forums or web site to even know about the FRS channel. I wonder how many would now if we promoted it some?
Regarding co-FTF, Lee and I do it this way - we both go to the cache, if we find it at the same time, it's a co-ftf. If I am 15 feet away and looking somewhere else when Lee spots it, it's her find. I would use this same process no matter who I was caching with, and whoever I am with can feel free to use their method. If I am at a cache, and another cacher comes upon me, they can choose to hold back to find it themselves or join right in, it makes no difference to me.
In some ways, I feel an FTF on an unpublished cache is not really an FTF anyway. :rolleyes:
Phil, there is NO premium for FTF's, the whistle is just to alert a team at a cache that you are coming. Then they have to finish up and vacate, whether they find the cache on not within 3 minutes. If no one else comes they can wait and go right back after your 3 minutes. The objective is to make sure that each team finds the caches on their own. These caches are spread out so, that we don't expect this to be a big issue, but needed some way to deal with any traffic jams that may develop.Quote:
Originally Posted by squirrelcache
I feel the same way. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by brdad
Haffy -
Different day Same tune! Actually it is a broken record. Actually it is interesting that it bothers you since you found a cache once before it was published (I think you may have been present when it was hidden, but not sure about that) and claimed the very thing your now so against.
You should be congratulating the folks for all the hard work and the positive promotion of our fine hobby. The fact that you have hard feelings about the whole thing is well known. Back off and let them be!
Have a great rallye!
It's at the end of the Geocaching.com official FAQ. I suppose it depends on how you read it. If Everyone has GPSrs capable of bringing them all w/in a 30' convergence........why would you need radios to get you together!? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by brdad
You're in the serene woods of Maine.....hunting for a geocache that's been promoted as a great find. You walk over the hill only to find someone sitting w/the opened cache in their lap and reading the logs. That doesn't sound like fun to me Any which way you cut it!!
So that makes two situations I've walked away from in the woods. People on an unpublished via waypoint known as lovers lane ;) And geocachers that might want to be left in peace to find the cache. We can have just as much fun chatting trailside after it's been found.
Awesome.....I knew there weren't any unpublished FTFs on this upcoming trip ;) I do like the idea of the Whistle blow that starts the official 3 mins. timer. Unfortunately my egg timer is only 2mins. :( Hey...there's a new geocaching invention for the industrious among us. A 3 mins. Rallye Timer!! Talk about useful swag!!Quote:
Originally Posted by lexmano
True, while the GPSrs would get you to the same spot, but oftentimes there are several ways into and out of a cache site. It was thought with the radios, most with a two mile range minimum, a person could broadcast from the parking area if there was a potential geocachers vehicle there, or just check randomly from the trails to see if any other cachers were heading to or from the cache.Quote:
Originally Posted by squirrelcache
Well, if I am the one at the cache, I don't care if a cacher comes and joins me. I can see where I may not want to spoil my hunt if it I thought it was a good one so may opt to turn around and hold back (or if we were using the radios, stay out of sight knowing he was there), but in most cases for me, it would not ruin the experience.Quote:
Originally Posted by squirrelcache
I was FTF at a cache once - I went to the site and looked all over for about 5 minutes, and at that point the cache owner walked up with the cache and stated " I think this is what you're looking for!". He had published the cache the night before and figured no one would be there before 7 AM the next day. That did lessen the experience a little, and today I might not claim the find until I went away and came back when it was in place.
Maybe it's my not so good hearing, but I am not sure I would hear a whistle unless I was close enough to be in sight with the whistlers anyway. Of course, if radios were used for the rally, I'd probably forget to turn it on or run out of batteries!
I've done over a thousand caches in the state of Maine and can still count on one hand the "encounters" I've had with other cachers at a cache site(excluding Event caches). When I have run into another cacher, meeting that person (or team) generally has turned out to be more memorable than the cache itself. Seems to me if a person wants complete and assured solitude and wants to completely remove the risk of running into another person then that person should give up geocaching and go aimlessly hike the western mountains somewhere. After all, the posted coordinates at geocaching.com ARE a convergence point and anybody who cares could load that point and go there.
I also wanted to comment about the cynicism and sarcasm regarding the rallye. How is it that those who are being satirical about the rallye can say they had a great time at a geo-caching event? They have games and raffles at a Gecoaching Event too. Couldn't it be construed that these Events are promoting an atmosphere of competition by promoting the, "best of..." or the, "most creative...." How are these competitions so much more pure and "ethical" than any other competitions? I've even been to an event where we all raced to an unpublished caches to get the prize which was essentially an FTF prize, remember Haffy, wasn't it a money award for getting to the cache first? It was either the Mount A. Event or a Cache Bashe event. Either way, it was a competitive event and it was FUN!! I'm sure these competitions at the geo-events had rules and guidelines to help promote a fun atmosphere, or at least the events I went to did.
Seems to be a lot of hippocritical cynicism. As far as building a 3 minute egg timer I think I'll be old fashion and watch the secondhand on my wristwatch. Old school I know but it still works.
The only difference I see is that at most events the caches are most likely temporary or are already published, and the caches used for any games are on the premises of the event where permission to use the property for such games is assumed. In my opinion there is less likelihood of any problems arising with landowners or other non-cachers in these cases. I have even participated in some of these event competitions myself, and though it's not really my thing, I can't say as I didn't have fun either. Actually, it's been kind of funny at the Cache Bashes, 30 people wandering a 100 foot radius and it still takes 20 minutes to find the stupid thing! In fact I'd feel more comfortable if these competitions were done on a single property, such as a state park and with permission. Many of these properties could entertain perhaps a hundred of temporary and virtual style caches in a controlled environment. I might even support geocachingmaine.org holding an event in this manner. In fact, I like this idea enough to think we should entertain the idea and discuss the possibility.
That being said, I will once again say I have never heard of any serious issues that have resulted from any of the similar rallies in this state.
I want to appologize if my light hearted posts have offended anyone! My job as a goofy Dad often carries over into other interests. Life all around us is Too Derned Serious All the time. So I do what I can to cut up and have fun w/those around me. Just so long as no one gets hurt.....it's all good.
I was trying to be funny in painting a picture of standing earshot from a cache w/an Egg timer...and yelling "My turn"! I honestly don't have an issue w/any of the guidelines set forth to create a safe and fun environment for the event. If I did.....I'd do more than speak up....I'd get involved. I've done it many times in my own community, while others stood by heckling from the sidelines.
Once again I'm sorry if I've offended anyone. My e-mail's open to anyone that's taken offense. Please give me a chance to clarify/rectify if possible, Before you form false opinions.
I liked the egg timer response!
The prizes are piling up, we are amazed at the generosity being displayed by our sponsors. At this time it is likely that everyone who participates will receive prizes with a value in excess of the cost of their entry!! Some will do much, much better. The top three teams will receive very generous prize packages! Also don't forget the PN-40 and NUVI which will be raffled off with everyone eligible!
I enclose a link to a web page with details of rules, equipment needed or suggested and a list of our sponsors.
http://sites.google.com/site/mainegeorallye3/sponsors-3
At this moment there are 20 teams with money in, several more we are expecting. Only one team from Bangor area so far, come on down folks! We have New York and Massachusetts teams coming. No one from New Hampshire yet.
The entry deadline has been extended to Wednesday September 23th. Please speak up and let us know if your entry is coming.
I'm curious how the scoring is done, on a geocache's D/T rating. I've seen online discussion of such, and no particular formula that I can remember. Anyone remember last year or know how it'll be done this year?