I am going to uninstall SA for pc and install only SA for handheld and see if I can duplicate this feat. Ill let you know how I make out.
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I am going to uninstall SA for pc and install only SA for handheld and see if I can duplicate this feat. Ill let you know how I make out.
Trackspv
I use a Palm Zire 71. And if he can get waypoints onto his PDA without using SA (PC) or Topo USA, I'd like to know how! LOL! (You can enter them manually/individually, but no one has ever been able to tell me how to import from GSAK or Easy GPS or the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beach Comber
But if he is, he's probably using different software.
I have a Palm Zire 72 and I can put any number of caches/waypoints on my SA USA using GSAK. Maybe I don't understand the question because this was a thread quite awhile ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhereRWe?
I believe SA for PC and SA for handheld are in a way, different. It seems you can't put waypoints from the GPS to a PPC using the handheld version.Kind of redundant but that seems to be a screw up of Delorme's. It works for Palm though.
We're talking about doing it with Street Atlas Handheld, Frank. I don't think you can do it with SAHH alone - you need the draw layer to add the waypoints.Quote:
Originally Posted by parmachenee
If it can be done with SAHH alone, I don't know how but, hey!, you CAN teach an old dog new tricks! :D
With GSAK create a txt file for SA USA. Find this folder: C:\DeLorme Docs\Mobile Maps\Wpts Transfer. Find the file XMAPHHWptsSend.txt and open it. Copy and Paste the txt file you generated from GSAK in between the lines Begin Symbol and End. Save it. The next time you sync it will send the waypoints to SA USA on your palm. I know I explained this before...or maybe I'm having a senior moment. :D
No Frank, You are correct. Since you're the one who taught me how to do it. I am using SAHH 2005 and transfering waypoints to my Palm Zire71 in that manner. I can send as many as I want at a time. and they will place a blue diamond with a cache name on the handheld maps. I like it!!
OK guys, this what they call "an epiphany". Where can we put this where we can find it again? I've already printed it, but... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by parmachenee
PUT THIS WHERE WE CAN ALL FIND IT AGAIN!! :D
Good call Bruce...
Well, it doesn't matter to me since I have SAHH, SA (PC) and Topo USA, and am used to exporting the waypoints to the PDA using the latter two. But for people just starting on paperless caching, this information means they just need the handheld version.
And I just looked at GSAK - Clyde has added a Delorme export option, in addition to the SA text file export. Haven't tried it, but I'll have to see what it can do.
But at this point, it is also important to know that if you are using a PPC, it is not possible to transfer waypoints into your handheld with SAHH - DeLorme tells me you must have SA (not for HH). This is the part that keeps being omitted from the equation. I'm anxious to learn about the test thattrackspv is going to try to see if he can prove DeLorme wrong on their own product :p
If you are using Palm OS, you are all set with just SA HH.
ok,ok you all win, I was thinking that you could download waypoints to a regular gpsr and then upload them back into sa(handheld), There is no way to even use their own GPS Earthmate unit on Street Atlas for handheld. The program running on the handheld has more features than SA handheld running on the PC. I had forgotten how basic the handheld version was. I was using my laptop originally with Street Atlas 7.0 so when I bought the pda I only installed the device files. I have since upgraded to SA 2005 and really like it.
Trackspv
P.S.I looked at the delorme export that WhereRwe mentioned and it still has to be imported as a draw layer.
Thank you so much checking that out. Bummer! Didn't mean to keep pushing back, but just wanted to make sure that I wasn't missing something that would allow me to use the program.
Guess I'll stick with Streets and Trips for now, but I am not completely excited about how it interfaces. Admittedly, it could be my skill level given that I just got it last week.
You can also use this same text file to import the waypoints into your SA USA on your laptop or home computer by choosing draw > file > import and choose that text file. Be sure to do it to your laptop before the sync with your pda because the sync will wipe the text file clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by parmachenee
Actually, I have found it to be very fast, faster to lock on than my Garmin Vista. I just set it up on my dashboard and let it do its thing. Maybe I have a bigger windshield than you. :D Connecting to my pda is quick and easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by cameoooooo
I've been playing with GSAK's new Delorme export format, and I really like it because when the waypoints are placed on Street Atlas as a draw layer, each waypoint is a clickable link to the geocaching.com page for that cache.Quote:
Originally Posted by trackspv
Cool!
It is kinda cool, Although I tried to link it to the offline gsak files and cant figure out where Gsak puts the temporary files it creates for viewing offline. It works great as long as your connected to the internet. I was also hoping it would work on my pda I tried to send the waypoints with the url attached to my pda with lots of hope, and once again it's only for the pc. Oh well I'll still be using gpxsonar on pda to view the caches, and street atlas to find them for now.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhereRWe?
Trackspv
Have you tried Cachemate for the PDA? I like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by trackspv
Unfortunately, Cachemate is not compatible with the PPC, only Palm OS :(
BC,
One of the things I thought was great about the PPC was that an extra app. like sonar or cachemate was not needed.
Was there someting in Cachemate that is better than the pages that GSAK makes for the PPC?
Probably not Tat,but for me, using Palm ,I didn't know about GSAK til after I had already purchased Cachemate and just got used to using that application. I know that you can download the HTML files directly from GSAK now ,so if the time came I would probably just use GSAK. I havent even touched the surface of GSAK for what it can provide and do,but there is a learning curve to it also and Cachemate is pretty user friendly.
Woah! Cachemate and GSAK are for different functions. GSAK is great for managing your cahce list, but Cachemate is for the actual "find" - it has cache descriptions, hints, previous logs, and the ability to log your comments for later transcription to the net.
GSAK is great on the laptop if you're in "the field", but it doesn't export this to the PDA - or does it? :D
I was under the impression that one needed in interface between GSAK and the Palm or PPC. Seems the top choice (at least amongst Maine cachers) is Cachmate. GPXSonar is a very similar product that I use with my iPAQ. To be honest, I haven't downloaded directly from GSAK to my PPC. TAT, is that what you do? I believe that Cameo and trackspv also use GPXSonar.
GSAK can dowload the HTML files to a PPC. Pick: File, Export, HTML files and then just drag them to the PPC.
GSAK also loads a nice index page with sort by name, unfound, etc. Also, at the bottom of each cace page, is a list of the nearset caches, with found caches in bold.
WereAreWe: "it has cache descriptions, hints, previous logs, and the ability to log your comments for later transcription to the net"
I know the HTML has descriptions, hints and previous logs, but I don't know about the ability to log your comments. I haven't figured out an acceptable way to use any PDA for typing, so it's a mute point for me!
Of cource, if you use a Palm, you do need Cachemate (or some other app.)
I guess I need to take a look at GPXSonar sometime!
Okay, so at least now I can say that I have tried another mapping program. Back to mapopolis...but before I do, can someone help me? I tried to download maps for the new Pocket Streets 2005 and the website doesn't even list Maine as one of the state options. I was able to find it in the 2004 downloads, but the map stops short just north of you guessed it...Portland. Hmmmm....maybe I'm missing something like being able to transfer the map from Streets and Trips to Pocket Streets? No big deal, just kinda curious.
Do you have just Microsoft Pocket Streets? or Streets and Trips with Pocket Streets included? I believe you will need both. I think you will run into the same problem as we recently realized with the DeLorme product in that you need both the PC version and the handheld version to get them to your PPC.
I recently purchased Microsoft Streets and Trips that included the Pocket PC software. Got it at Staples for $39.99 with a $10 rebate.
My challenge so far is that I cannot load the entire state at once and have to send "segments" or "areas" of the state to my PPC. Other than that - it works well.
It was you that told me about it! I kept thinking about the rebate and saying....hmmm...maybe I'm missing something really cool. So I went out and purchased Streets & Trips 2005 that comes with Pocket Streets. I was able to see how to send from my laptop to the PPC, the segments. Haven't figured out exactly how that will work just get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beach Comber
I think it's about time somebody chimed in with the perfect software....a nice mixture of all three would be nice!
When I receive my updated gpx file from GC, I update my gsak file, I then create a new gpx file right into mydocs folder on my pda, I then open that file on my pda with gpxsonar and it lists the caches with Type,TB's, Distance, Diriction, Difficulty, Etc. Etc. When You select one It looks just as though you are looking at the GC website with the exceptions of the maps and some other small fetures, It displays the logs and If you want the hints u just highlight a blank area and it shows right up. You can also make field notes on each one. There is a way to send it directly back to gsak but I haven't done it. I usually will just write myself little notes that only I can understand anyway and then I log them on the internet using the notes just to help me remember what we did at the cache.
You can also use Gpxsonar to Export the waypoints onto certain gps units or to a loc file. I haven't used these either because my gpsr is connected through my cf port directly.
It will also create MS Street & Trips push pin files for Cameoo and beachcomber.
Trackspv
I've been able to create pushpins for the cache locations on the maps and love it. I was so excited the first time I transferred the info and they all popped into the map - I'm sure my family was convinced that I had flipped my lid - LOL!
I did my first semi-paperless caching a few weeks ago and liked it. This past Friday, I was able to go completely paperless - it was great!
Are these things happening to you, Jeff.......
1. I found that in GPX Sonar when I made field notes that it carried the information from one field note into another. For example - I made a note in the field note for Etna Bog and closed that cache. I then opened the field note for Plymouth Cache and the same information I had written in the Etna Bog cache was there.
2. I have not figured out how to send a large area such as a map of Maine, either with or without the caches indicated. It only allows sections at a time which is ok, but I would rather have the entire state.
3. Though I establish various sections (i.e. Southern Maine, Mid Coast, Downeast, etc.) and export them as individual map sections with unique names, I have trouble accessing information in each of the unique files. It displays information only from one of the maps. For example - I open the Southern (after closing the other one) and see the Southern Maine information again.
Thanks a million!
Boy that would be frustrating, When we make field notes it doesn't do that. It treats each one as a new note. I just havent ever transfered them to anywhere. They are usually full of misspelled words and such because I use the transcriber and I don't write that neat so it only recognizes about half of what I write, I can usually translate later when we do the postings on the net.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beach Comber
I do not have streets and trips so I can't help you with those other questions.
Trackspv
I just got MS Streets & Trips, and am unable to import waypoints from gSAK. I get an error "XXXX.csv has a bad format"
Anyone had any experience with this error? I can't find anything relevant with a Google.
TIA.
Give Clyde a buzz at the Groundspeak forums and I'm sure he will get right back to you,he has me on a couple of occasions and he is really helpful.
Bruce - I am using that software as well and haven't experienced that. I have outlined the steps that I take below. You may already be doing this and if so, then sounds like there is a problem. If you aren't already taking these steps, perhaps this will help. Some of these steps are perhaps obvious and more basic than you need me to outline, but I am never sure of skill levels that others have so I always try to walk through each individual step, jusssssst in case. Hope this is helpful.
Here are the steps that I take.......
In GSAK....
- File
- Export
- Microsoft Streets and Trips CSV file
- first field - indicate the path for where you want to save the file using browse
- second field - i leave as is
- wayoint name = %smart and 8 characters
- problem characters - i indicate a single apostrophe . . . '
- cache description format = %Name by %By (%Dif/%Ter)
- leave the remaining fields as they are
- generate
- should get "Finished OK"
- OK
In Streets and Trips....
- File
- New
- New North American map
- Data
- Import Data Wizard
- choose the file you want to import the cache points from
- open
- character that separates the field should be comma
- next
- country region will say United States
- "first row contains colum headings" should be checked
- finish
- you should now see pushpins
Now do you want to say that in English for me?.....lol
LOL! Don't worry, Haffy. IT WORKED!Quote:
Originally Posted by Haffy6
Thanks, Beach! :D
Thanks, Beach, but is there any way to get the cache name or waypoint name on the map? I can do that with Topo USA and Street Atlas...
The name doesn't show up automatically, but if you double click on the pushpin, it will show the name abbreviated to 8 letters. It will also tell you what type of cache it is, who placed it and the difficulty ratings. You click on the "x" in the upper right hand corner to close the text box. If there are a whole bunch clumped together, it will show you a list of what is there.
Here are the two problems that I have encountered with the software and have not been able to resolve. If you find a way to work around these, please let me know.
1. I have not figured out how to send a large area such as a map of Maine, either with or without the caches indicated. It only allows sections at a time which is ok, but I would rather have the entire state.
2. Though I establish various sections (i.e. Southern Maine, Mid Coast, Downeast, etc.) and export them as individual map sections with unique names, I have trouble accessing information in each of the unique files. It displays information only from one of the maps. For example - I open the Southern (after closing the other one) and see the Southern Maine information again.
It is nice to share this information! I have spent a fair amount of time and energy on this and if it saves you some of the frustration that I experienced along that way, that is great!! :)
I'm curious about what you will decide about how this software compares to the DeLorme product.