For those of you that are in the same boat I am.... This is thread is not designed to be and open discussion about your beleifs on gun control or carrying or what ever. Just a very cool company that I came across that I thought some outdoors folks would find helpful for that hard to carry situation, example... Backpacking. I found this website by accident and thought many hunters, backpackers, kayakers and atvers would find this neat. Heres the link. I got there chest carry holster in the mail today for the 500 smith and wesson and it works awesome.