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Three weeks after getting contacted by the owner of Pot O' Gold, he has archived it due to the fact that he found out his students made a mistake with the coordinates so my guess was right. Just wondering what every thinks about liability when coordinates are wrong and it takes you onto private property or other dangerous places. When I or the other cachers were crawling around the foundation of a camp with no trespassing signs and the owner shoots us, can my wife use the defense that the cache placer obviously got permission to place it there as we all know everyone gets permission and the land owner didn't have the right to shout me. I have made a mistake with coordinates before and although no one will admit it, I know more of you have too. At what point in searching, do most people decide they shouldn't be where they are?
If we see a sign that says "NO TRESSPASSING" then we leave cache or not even if the cache says we have permission
Just posted a needs to be archived for that stupid cache. It is only disabled. After reading what the hider posted for this cache I'm surprised anyone makes it out of that camp alive.
This is a prime example of why people that have no experience should not be allowed to hide a cache. Anyone looking for this cache would have gotten killed, if the coordinates had been even close.
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What's wrong with putting a cache on a live shooting range? I guess I should be thankful that the coordinates were wrong and only took me to a trigger happy, no trespassing laden, old hermit's camp. I can run a lot faster than my wife so after the first shot, I might have had a good chance of surviving.
I sent the CO an email. I said we all made mistakes starting out. I suggested that he/she archive that cache and maybe try later. I also mentioned that some in the caching community may respond with harsh woods and comments. Why is it necessary to go after a new person with torches and pitchforks. It's a game and some people make mistakes on coordinates. Sheesh Mike, give em a break will ya.
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+1 . . . A little bit of helpful, brotherly advice and honesty goes a long way towards helping out folks new to the sport.
As for when do I back out of an area . . . I guess it comes down to commonsense, the will to live and the ability to determine if a place is safe or not . . .
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Yeah, like my hair has not been burned off with a torch or two.
Helping out new comers is a great thing. Have taken a few out and showed them the ropes.
Going after people like this is one way to look at it. Another way is that these completely ignorant people put me and my loved ones in literally the line of fire. Using this as an example is more than warranted. Placing a cache on obviously private property and having the home owners or cops come after you is getting old quick.
So excuse me if I go after someone for making what you call a mistake. I call it a blatant negligent act that can not go ignored and they should be made example of to warn others to be more careful before doing the same. Kind of like how we have laws to deter killing people in the first place.
Should the headlines read, "Child or Mother or whatever, killed on shooting range looking for cache placed by completely ignorant to the sport newbies" or "Newbie embarrassed by cachers asking for proof of permission and experience before placing a cache"?
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