No one is saying there should not be prompt action when a cache is placed in a dangerous place. The cache owner disabled the cache in a prompt manner and most likely doesn't understand the difference between disabling and archival.
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No one is saying there should not be prompt action when a cache is placed in a dangerous place. The cache owner disabled the cache in a prompt manner and most likely doesn't understand the difference between disabling and archival.
DNFTT! DNFTT! DNFTT!
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I don't agree.
The cache owner did not disable it in a prompt manner. The cache owner did not respond to any inquires. The cache owner did not ask for help when it was determined that there was a problem.
It is obvious that the cache owner doesn't know the difference and doesn't seem to care.
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I'm curious about the GC code for this cache as well.
That said, if a cache was placed downrange on a shooting range, I'm with Mike....strong and quick action is the only reasonable choice. While it's a good trait to be temperate, it's also a good trait to be pro-active when something like this happens. I certainly made my share of newbie mistakes, heck I even logged a find on one of my own caches! (mainiac1957 sent me a nice note suggesting that was not within the spirit of the game) and I deleted it.
Sounds like this CO made a very stupid and potentially fatal mistake. How else should one act in response?
Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason.
I've been told more than once, no names, no pointing out caches in the forums but I will email the code to the two people that asked. The owner wasn't prompt as I pointed out the problem and then it took a couple weeks for an answer, then a couple more to disable it. This is also a good reason for people to log DNF's as after several in a row, I know for a fact it prevented others from going to the cache until it was checked on. No DNF's and we may have had dozens going to the shooting range looking for it.
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I do not agree with hiding a cache so close to a shooting range and this one is NOT the first. I went for another cache that in the description it says it is near a shooting range but out of range and was hidden in 02.
I agree that bad coords are a real pain. I went after a cache that the coords were 100 miles off! I have found caches that the coords were 100 or more feet off. The first was by a very experienced finder and hider.
I know this camp very well as my son went there for 3 years and I have only the highest remarks for them and everything that they do! I find it hard to believe that it was done on purpose and I can understand the delay in the response.The last time my son went there laptops and cell phones were NOT allowed! No other electronic devices were allowed. I would guess that the counselor who helped with it was not able to check the logs until after camp.
I usually never respond to these type of threads but I feel that new cachers would NOT feel welcomed here and would not seek help because of the way that these posts come across.
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I, too, am familiar with the camp and agree. Nothing was done intentionally or in malice. Work to help and teach them not condemn.
There was a local group which had the same thing happen (but not near a range) and after a little help it was fixed. Our game puts no experience requirements on placing caches - and I am not sure even that would fix some of the errors made.
Teach rather than condemn, help rather than criticise.
I remember a lot of folks who have published bad coords, not gotten permission and a bunch of other stuff - how quick we all are to forget our own mistakes...................JMHO
Well, let's see if Brad (mainiac1957) gets a response. Actually, the Bryant Pond cacher was on today so if he's got any sense of responsibility, Brad should have heard from him by now. Rookie mistake....but a very BAD error. And I agree, cachers with no finds that place caches usually place bad caches. It's not the first time this has happened. We should encourage new cachers to find a bunch before placing caches so that this type of issue can avoided.
Sometimes the road less traveled is less traveled for a reason.