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    As a Premium Member of Geocaching.com, you now have the ability to rate your favorite geocaches of all time.
    
    Premium Members earn Favorite Points at a rate of 1 for every 10 geocaches found, and past finds contribute to the point total. By awarding a point to a favorite cache, you help call attention to the highest quality caches in your area and reward cache owners for placing exceptional caches.
    
    The Favorite Points earned by a cache are tallied and displayed on each cache page and in the search results for everyone’s benefit. Premium Members have the additional perk of sorting search results by the most Favorited caches.
    I like this idea, actually I started working on the same project, now I don't have to
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    I would rather not see any rating system other than word of mouth. And to gain those favorite points by the number of caches you found is far from the best in my opinion, it seems it will just promote finding more numbers.

    I think a much better plan would be a point for every year you are as member of gc.com, two points for every year you are a premium member of gc.com, and one point for every point one of your hides gets.

    That being said, this system is better than many that have been proposed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdad View Post
    I would rather not see any rating system other than word of mouth. And to gain those favorite points by the number of caches you found is far from the best in my opinion, it seems it will just promote finding more numbers.

    I think a much better plan would be a point for every year you are as member of gc.com, two points for every year you are a premium member of gc.com, and one point for every point one of your hides gets.

    That being said, this system is better than many that have been proposed.
    Why should premium members get extra points? You can as well sell points in packages 100 points for $20, 500 points just for $50 (you save $50)
    Why should it depend on how many years you have been caching? Why should people who cache a lot (and therefore have seen a lot) get less points than somebody who registered many years ago and found just few caches behind their backyard? Also getting a point for every rewarded point you get is unsustainable, total number of points will grow quadratically and at some point there will be more available reward points than available caches.
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    Giving the extra point to premium members is an incentive for people to support the website. That is a good thing IMO.

    Giving points for years caching would start the whole process. There has to be a few points in someone's possession in order for the rest of this system to function.

    Perhaps the points per point idea could use some refinement, either a cap on the max, or maybe only get a percentage of the points for your 5 highest favorited caches.

    I'm sure it could be made to work to some extent. No rating system is perfect, most are usually far from perfect. And in the grand scheme of things it does not matter because gc.com went with a different plan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdad View Post
    Giving the extra point to premium members is an incentive for people to support the website. That is a good thing IMO.
    So is selling the points. Is it as stupid as rewarding souvenirs just for searching for caches using their paid application.

    Quote Originally Posted by brdad View Post
    Giving points for years caching would start the whole process. There has to be a few points in someone's possession in order for the rest of this system to function.
    So you are saying that somebody who has found many caches has less favorites than someone who found just a few but has been caching longer?
    How is that possible?

    Quote Originally Posted by brdad View Post
    Perhaps the points per point idea could use some refinement, either a cap on the max, or maybe only get a percentage of the points for your 5 highest favorited caches.

    I'm sure it could be made to work to some extent.
    Sure, for example having no extra points for rewarded points. Otherwise you will be creating infinite number of points out of nowhere.

    Quote Originally Posted by brdad View Post
    No rating system is perfect, most are usually far from perfect. And in the grand scheme of things it does not matter because gc.com went with a different plan.
    No rating system is a subset of a rating system. Therefore a rating system is no worst than no rating system no matter what is the rating based on. If you don't like the rating system, just ignore it and you will be exactly where you were with no rating system.


    There is a fixed percentage of caches you love, more you cache more you find (you love or don't) however the ratio will remain the same. That's why reward points should be a percentage from your total finds. It's that simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cano View Post
    So you are saying that somebody who has found many caches has less favorites than someone who found just a few but has been caching longer?
    How is that possible?
    Quote Originally Posted by cano View Post
    There is a fixed percentage of caches you love, more you cache more you find (you love or don't) however the ratio will remain the same. That's why reward points should be a percentage from your total finds. It's that simple.
    I think the number of caches found has little bearing on how many favorite caches a particular cacher has, and I can't imagine why you think it is a fixed ratio. No cacher is guaranteed to have 10% favorites. A cacher with a larger number of finds may have (but not guaranteed) a larger variety of finds to choose from, but they could be of equal quality, resulting in them all being a favorites, or none. However, a cacher who hides caches other people consider favorites probably has a good idea what a good cache is.

    A given cacher could find 1000 caches and have 2 favorites or 950 favorites. They may cache for years and only have a few favorites and then find a string of caches they love. They may have a low percentage of favorite caches they love and then a new cache type comes out and they love a higher percentage, or vise-versa. It is different for every cacher, and varies with time and available caches.
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    I wish they had an alternate "Your Cache Sucks" point system as well....

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    I'd rather have them institute a minimum finds one cacher must have before they can ever place a cache...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARoperPhotography View Post
    I'd rather have them institute a minimum finds one cacher must have before they can ever place a cache...
    Sheesh! He finally said something I can agree with! LOL!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CARoperPhotography View Post
    I'd rather have them institute a minimum finds one cacher must have before they can ever place a cache...
    Just like for ratings, using the number of finds is not a perfect method of determine one's ability to hide a decent cache. Some people could hide 50 decent caches without finding any, yet some people have thousands of finds and should never be allowed to hide a cache.

    I'm not sure how you can fairly determine who should hide and who should not, but it would be nice if there was a way. I often say people should not be allowed to vote unless they can pass a simple test, like who is the current president, who is your current governor, color in the US on a blank map, etc... Perhaps something similar could work for cache placement. Unfortunately, this will likely never happen, either.
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