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    Once upon a time there were people that cached because they loved it. There were people that tromped thru the woods for hours with old gps units and paper logs. They could cache all day and come home and log their finds . They could cache all week on vacation and a come home and log their finds. They did not have smartphones, and high tech gps units. They could chase a new cache and be in awe of whether someone had beaten them there when they arrived. They still enjoyed the hunt. Those were the days. There are still people that cache with those old units and carry paper today. WHAT?!! YOU SAY?? There are cachers that don't remember those days. Once upon a time no one expected you to stand out in the woods beside the cache and log online a ftf so they would not have to continue to travel and hunt for it. After all, what is the challenge if the ftf is gone? Once upon a time you did not get a condescending note if you did not stand in the rain, snow, hail ruining your new technology phone if you have one, and the battery isn't dead, to make sure there was immediate notification of your find. I cached with a student last week that did not have that new technology. We are all on one side or the other of this equation. How nice it would be if people with all the high tech equiptment would lighten up with the remarks to the people that don't log enroute and just enjoy the suspense of opening the logbook. Some people have cached this way for years. They all logged happily ever after. THE END. The wicked witch.
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    I've made comment in my log recently about that very thing. Wouldn't have said a word but the person who got the FTF is someone I've known since before we started caching so I claim the right to pick on them. Other caches we've gone after in hopes of bagging the FTF we've been STF or further down the line and really didn't care, we found the cache and that was really all that mattered. I like to see people log their FTFs as soon as they can (we've even taken advantage of "Free WIFI" at McDonald's to log just the FTF log before) but an instant log has never been something that gets me excited. I just don't like to see FTFs not logged for days. On the flip side of that coin, as a cache owner especially, I really don't care too much for "FTF edit later" either. I've seen that as the log that never got editted (although not on one of my caches) or, should I say, it hadn't been editted when I saw the logs. We all have our own caching styles and as long as we're having fun, I say "Cache ON!"

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    Wink More fractured fairy tales....

    Of course, back in the day FTF's were not really much of an issue anyway. As stated it could be hours, days of even weeks before a cache got logged. And sometime no one else even whet after the particular cache if it was in a remote area. I am the first to admit that I too like running for them, and I often will log from my smartphone. Then what always seems to happen is no one else finds that cache right away. I guess I will stop logging from the field. Well maybe.....
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    The saddest part I get out of all this is when cache finders can not get enough enjoyment out of a cache to find it worthy of visiting in they are not FTF. It's no doubt some cache placements promote that kind of feeling, but to expect everyone to log caches instantly is foolish. Caching was not designed to be a race.

    Lee and I have actually FTF'd more caches this year than we ever have. We've gotten 8 so far, 4 of them in one day. We went after them because we wanted to do them, not because we wanted FTF. Most of them were not logged for at least 5 hours after finding them. While we had fun doing those, we actually got a lot more satisfaction when we found a cache last year that had not been hunted for in 5 years. Maine has over 300 caches which have not been found in over a year, as well as about 20 caches that were placed over a month ago available for FTF, 12 or so of which were placed over four months ago. If a person is going to get so stressed over someone not logging an FTF from the field, perhaps they should concentrate on caches others are less likely to be running for.

    Another idea if you feel the need to make it a competition is to get together with those you want to compete with, set your ground rules including logging from the site and have at it. Race against those playing your game, and disregard other cache finders. So it's not necessarily who is FTF, but who is first out of your defined group.
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    Yes, we each have our own caching styles. My opinions are just that, my opinions. I was hoping to just put a seed in everyones mind that some people just cannot log in the field. I also think that smart phones may be the reason that there as so many logs that just say TFTC. Comments have been make previously on how that is not a sufficient log by some folks. I personally find my phone not user friendly and wojuld not do much elaborating if I logged that way each time. Kudos to those of you that are proficient at that. My logs sometimes tend to have more blah blah than the owner really probably needs to know. To each their own style. It would be a boring life if we were all clones. Thanks for your reflections on this.
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    There are a few of us that have started purposely not logging first to find online. The comments are hilarious.
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    Waterski..... I don't stand in the rain ruining my nice technology. I either have an Otterbox Defender case or a LifeProof case on my iPhone 4S.

    And I always log immediately. Heck if I have no cell coverage, I log via the SPOT on my PN-60w

    And I think you failed to mention to anyone else in this thread, what else I said in my note to you. If you wish, I could find my copy of it and post it. But that's ok, most people usually leave out an integral part of the story when they complain. So we will leave it at that....

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    I am quite certain there was no menioned of you or ANY cacher in my posts.
    My point is exactly as you wrote. Some cachers do indeed use extrex and use paper and encript the clue on the trail. I know..I have cached with them. They don't have an android and don't want one. That does not make them a bad person. I am frankly tired of hearing about expensive updated technology. You do not need this equiptment to be a cacher. If you have it and can afford it, great.
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    Some of the best day's caching I have had is when I was using my "geomate JR." as low tech as you can get (no maps and on lots of caches only the lat/long and them on seperate screens so you have to tab back and forth) and those printed papers while decripting hint's by pen. actually my first 3 FTF's were with them while camping at lily Bay state park and was not able to log them until I got home 3 day's later.

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    Etiquette, importance, a jerk, rude, criticism
    The etiquette that is spoken of holds no merit and means absolutelynothing because it’s not part of the game. There is no expectation by normalcachers new or old on when a cache needs to be logged. Therefore the importance of such matters is nonexistent.
    So, to complain and criticize anyone that will not play yourgame is rude and childish.
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