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  1. #51
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    Once again, I'm done. You see your point of view and no others. Buh-bye.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustKev View Post
    Once again, I'm done. You see your point of view and no others. Buh-bye.
    Seeing another's point of view and agreeing with an other's point of view are TWO different things. I am not obligated by some contract here on GeocachingMaine.org to see or agree with someone else's view. I do though, read everyone's posts and listen to them. However in doing so, it does not mean that I must agree or "see" your view, whatever "seeing" one's point of view means! So instead of sitting here and trying to get me to agree with you or impart YOUR view on me, you choose to run away. Again.... what's with that Eagle, Globe, and Anchor avatar? Just saying..... JustKev

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    SO what now?
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    I spoke with the North Maine Woods yesterday and they told me that the woods roads go to Escourt Station from the south of town. There is no need to go to Canada or bushwhack or trespass on anyone's property. It's a long, but scenic drive and probably worth the trip, especially if you don't care to go to Canada.

    Please call and verify first before you go and don't forget to ask at the gate if there are road closures or logging activities watch for.
    The farmer gave permission to place the cache in the field, but the bull charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tat View Post
    I spoke with the North Maine Woods yesterday and they told me that the woods roads go to Escourt Station from the south of town. There is no need to go to Canada or bushwhack or trespass on anyone's property. It's a long, but scenic drive and probably worth the trip, especially if you don't care to go to Canada.

    Please call and verify first before you go and don't forget to ask at the gate if there are road closures or logging activities watch for.
    So TAT let me get this straight, you don't need to cross the border or trespass? I am mistaken then because the roads coming from the south seem to come out on the border and then literally on top of the border, or a few feet to the west of the border, into Canada until the cache and it darts back across the U.S. sign.

    I love trips like this! I will call as well. Thanks for providing this information!

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    Quote Originally Posted by surfacewarrior View Post
    Actually called Borderpatrol this afternoon. they transfered me to the main office for that region (fort kent) and the agent said all you would need to get across and back if you don't have a passport is your birth certificate. I ask about walking in completely on the US side and he said I would be seen and stopped. With everything going on where I work and things here at home I am thinking about giving this a shot in July. The border patrol actually suggested crossing at fort kent and then doing a quick run up on pavede roads with a lot less miledge and time spent. Looking into both ways.
    So, the above conversation serves the same purpose as a "No Trespassing" sign. Once you are told you can't go there by someone in an official capacity the only correct answer is that you can't go there. With the information Tat found, it would appear that approaching from the avenue provided from his information would be the only way to make it to this cache from the United States side of the border. I'd still be in contact with both North Maine Woods and the Border Patrol before approaching that close to the international border.

    Chadd, with respect to my avatar, I served honorably and was discharged honorably and am proud of my service to my country.

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    Exactly, Kevin. Some times you're better off to get permission even if you are not legally required to do so. Considering the reward is a cache find, IMO it's hardly worth an altercation.
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    This geocaching "thing" . . . it's still just a game, right?
    "Courage is not the absence of fear, but the realization that there is something more important than fear."

    "Death is only one of many ways to die."

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    Quote Originally Posted by JustKev View Post
    So, the above conversation serves the same purpose as a "No Trespassing" sign. Once you are told you can't go there by someone in an official capacity the only correct answer is that you can't go there. With the information Tat found, it would appear that approaching from the avenue provided from his information would be the only way to make it to this cache from the United States side of the border. I'd still be in contact with both North Maine Woods and the Border Patrol before approaching that close to the international border.

    Chadd, with respect to my avatar, I served honorably and was discharged honorably and am proud of my service to my country.
    Unless there are physical "No Tresspassing" Signs in place in the area I want to cross to access this cache, there is no reason to detain me, or anyone else simply because we remained on the proper side of the border. The information that TAT and Surfacewarrior provided to not truly answer my questions. TAT's post seems to be a general idea of how to get to the cache area, but not location. Based on what he has said, and what he was told by North Woods, It doesn't make sense comparing that information to the maps, and the Google imagery. But it does say that there is no need to cross the border OR bushwhack to the cache, that being said, I am even more likely to do this cache, AND I am sure that the Border Patrol will try to detain me for NOT crossing the border, which you Kev think is perfectly legal and right, and proper. THAT sir is why I question your bearing of that sacred emblem in your avatar.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by brdad View Post
    Exactly, Kevin. Some times you're better off to get permission even if you are not legally required to do so. Considering the reward is a cache find, IMO it's hardly worth an altercation.
    An altercation? With law enforcement agents who are paid by my tax dollars, to protect our country from people crossing illegally into it. Considering I wouldn't be crossing the border, and I am already HERE legally as a citizen, they have no reason to detain me, and you are correct, there would be an altercation if they did.

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