The old adage "stop trying so hard". We got our first and only FTF when we stopped trying. Monster Cache hadn't been found in almost 2 weeks. Haffy had told me about it. Took a kayak to get there. Got up at 5am out on the water by 6am and the cache area by 6:30am. WHAT! a DNF. Coords put me in the water. Searched for almost an hour. No luck. Next day the cache owner, who had been notified earlier of the coords issue. Changed them and the the hint. I went out about 10am slept late, had breakfast, leisurely paddled to the site. And lo and behold our first FTF. I won't get up at 4am to be FTF. I'd much rather enjoy my sleep and the morning coffee. STF's are ok with the Team. We have 12 of them.