View Poll Results: Should out of staters place caches in Maine?

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  • Yes

    8 11.43%
  • No

    8 11.43%
  • Only if they can come in state on short notice or have someone in Maine maintain it

    49 70.00%
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Thread: Out of staters placing caches

  1. #1
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    Default Out of staters placing caches

    I was wondering how some of you felt about out of staters placing caches here in Maine? From what I have see of caches. It is hard enought for some of the Mainers to take care of there caches so how can we expect out of staters to take care of them when they get looted or need some tender loving care?
    Blazing Troll

  2. #2
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    I agree. I especially find micorcaches - with just a couple of pages of notepaper that will be filled in a month or so - especially annoying. I adopted a local cache
    that was about to be denied because the owner clearly stated in the cache description that he placed it while on vacation. It was a nice spot and worthy of a cache site.

    We have enough trouble with caches placed by LOCAL people that do not get the maintenance they should be getting. How many of us have found caches with repeated log entries saying "wet", "log full", etc?

  3. #3
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    My bigest peeve is having a yukky find.....when the contents are wet and slimmy I would rather not log an on site entry....

  4. #4
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    I don't really have an issue with people from out of state placing caches in Maine, as long as they maintain them properly and in a timely manner. Or make arrangements with a local cacher to assist with maintaining it. I know of some out of state cachers who maintain their caches in Maine better than some of the local cachers. Bottom line is if you are not able or willing to maintain a cache just don't place it, regardless of where you are from.

  5. #5
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    Simply not letting out of staters place caches will not help - for one, it can't be enforced the way gc.com works now.

    A person could have a cache next door and if he doesn't maintain it, he might as well live 1000 miles away.

    But it only stands to reason the further you live away from a cache the less likely it will be maintained.

    And I even hate the idea of having someone else care for it. If they are doing the work, it should be their cache.


    And ya, I hate slimy caches too!
    Last edited by brdad; 07-12-2004 at 06:34 AM.

  6. #6
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    Default What's the point, though?

    I guess I don't understand why someone would want to place a cache far from home and depend on someone else to maintain it. If a local person really wants to take care of it, then they should own it. I like going out of state (or the country) to find a cache placed and maintained by a local, sort of a gift from them to an outsider, just as it is especially fun to see a visitor from outside of Maine find my cache.

  7. #7
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    I don't have issues with this because I have caches in Ontario, Canada which I had to jump through hoops to get but they are in great spots and I've had many nice comments about them. I took care of the maintenance issue by showing my daughter, who lives in Niagara-on-the-Lake, 10 minutes away, and Rochester, one hour away, where they were so she could maintain them when I'm not there. We visit the area often and check them out but it is a long-distance relationship.

  8. #8
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    Our vote was "Only if they can come in state on short notice or have someone in Maine maintain it" because it is not unreasonable for someone just across the state line in New Hampshire, or a-way over in northeast Vermont, or a-way down in northeast Massachusetts, etc, to include Maine in their active caching area. It's not necessarily a state boundary or even the distance that matters, as long as the cache location is within the cachers active area, and they maintain the cache appropriately. We live near Chattanooga, Tennessee, and own a cache in Alabama, that is a couple hours drive away, but it is on a route that we drive regularly to/from Birmingham AL, so being able to maintain the cache is not an issue.

    We also have found caches that are directly within an owner's caching area that have not been maintained... some unremarkable, and some like this very neat cache location... CITY OF GRANITE in North Carolina.

    About placing a 'vacation cache' far away from home and having it maintained by some other cacher... uh, why? If another cacher in that locale has to maintain it, they should own it. We did actually place a cache in Maine, on our visit to Bar Harbor several months ago, but good ol' roamin' Roamer did not hang around the Pine Tree State for long.

    We found a lot of fun caches on our trip to Maine, and hope we provided a little fun for the cache owners by logging caches as 'visitors from afar'. We are looking forward to planning another caching trip to Maine and the northeast and we enjoy the geocachingmaine community. Thanks!

  9. #9
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    Unhappy If you place it. Maintain it.

    I'll put in my 2 cents worth.

    I think that the Geocaching listing requirements cover this. Here is a quote from their page.

    Placing Caches on Vacation / Beyond Your Maintainable Distance

    Placing caches on vacation or outside of your normal caching area is unacceptable and these caches may not be listed. As the cache owner you are obligated to be in a position to manage your caches, and caches placed on vacation require someone else to maintain them for you. It is not uncommon for areas to be cleared, trails to be blocked or closed, objects used for virtual or multi-caches to be moved or removed, etc. You must be able to react to negative cache logs and investigate the location quickly. Please be responsible. This guideline applies to all types of caches including virtual caches.

    The territory in which a geocacher is able to maintain caches responsibly will vary from one person to the next. An active geocacher who regularly visits areas hundreds of miles apart can demonstrate their ability to maintain a cache 100 miles from home. A geocacher whose previous finds and hides are all within 25 miles of their home would likely not see their cache listed if placed 250 miles away from their home.

    If you have special circumstances, please describe these on your cache page or in a note to the reviewer. For example, if you have made arrangements with a local geocacher to watch over your distant cache for you, that geocacherís name should be mentioned on your cache page.
    I think that the person placing the cache has an obligation to maintain it or provide for someone to maintain it.

    If you find a cache that is not being maintained then post a recommendation that it be archived. Once that is done then a new cache can be placed there.




    A house is not a home without a cat.

  10. #10
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    Talking Guilty!!... Sort of....

    I know I shouldn't say it... but sometimes someone can get really busy and have very intention of fixing a "slimey" cache, but things just keep coming up and can't be done.

    My husband is the owner of a "slimey" cache right now. He just can't seem to find the time to go out and fix it. I finally told him he needs to go out there by the end of June (I gave July 1) to fix it or the "chicks" will adopt it.

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