Maine Cache and Cache Hider Stats

[brdad]

I could not agree more, but I only know of one LPC ammo box cache.

[CARoperPhotography]

HA HA! Gotta give you a thumbs up for that one.... looks like some caches I have seen :-)

[Gob-ler]

2010 - The Year of the Regular Cache Container

Could it be?

While I like micro caches I am a firm believer that micro caches should only go where a regular cache cannot. IMOHO, there are way to many micro caches that are placed where other more appropriate sized caches could be. Geo-cacher University had a nifty piece about what is appropriate for where.

I am getting a bit concerned about the dramatic increase in small sized caches. I think we can do better.

There, you now have two things that BRDAD and I have similar feelings about although on this one my view may not be quite as narrow as the other persons view.

Cache on!

[brdad]

HA HA! Gotta give you a thumbs up for that one.... looks like some caches I have seen :-)

That is an actual cache - placed by the self-proclaimed "Number one non-cheating Geocacher in the world"!

[brdad]

There, you now have two things that BRDAD and I have similar feelings about although on this one my view may not be quite as narrow as the other persons view.

I knew you'd come around!

Brett does a great job with the Geocacher University web site.

And I'll agree I am more narrow minded on most subjects. But I am truly concerned with how the game is presented and perceived, particularly to new cachers and non-cachers - perhaps a bit more than I need to.

[lexmano]

That is an actual cache - placed by the self-proclaimed "Number one non-cheating Geocacher in the world"!

Give it up, I thought HD had that title.

[WhereRWe?]

And I'll agree I am more narrow minded on most subjects. But I am truly concerned with how the game is presented and perceived, particularly to new cachers and non-cachers - perhaps a bit more than I need to.

Remember how we always used to remark that "I/we would have never been to this place if it hadn't been for geocaching"? Sheesh! You can say the same think about the back side of many shopping mall stores! LOL!

[brdad]

Remember how we always used to remark that "I/we would have never been to this place if it hadn't been for geocaching"? Sheesh! You can say the same think about the back side of many shopping mall stores! LOL!

Yeah, the only difference unlike many of the "older style unique areas", some of the stores I have been behind to get a cache I will never return to! I'm not sure if it's that hiders don't notice or don't care, or if the conditions changed since they last checked on it, but it's very hard to enjoy a cache when there are hypodermic needles, used condoms, or other unsanitary conditions nearby. And I know this is common around other caches as well (as in the case of Old470), but many areas behind businesses are never cleaned up and it's quite obvious they are not the best place to be hanging at, let alone bringing your kids to.

When we were in Memphis caching this Spring, we came up on a cache behind this run down convenience store. I got a funny feeling driving up and before I even stopped, Lee told me to keep going. A month or so ago I was talking to a cacher who lives in the area and had lunch with on our trip - he told us of a big drug operation that was busted at that store just a few days before. Sometimes you have to go with your gut.

And yet, I hear another 'Let people play the way they want" and/or "If you don't like them, don't do them" speech coming soon. Sorry, I can't buy that in these cases. There are some areas that caches should just not be placed near.

[CARoperPhotography]

There is nothing more to piss me off, than a micro DEEP in the woods....

.... and.... in response to Gobbler's comment, I think that before he criticizes other's oddly placed caches in locations that don't quite make sense, I can name off a few of his that make me wonder..... I mean, the Centum cache in Scarborough? Please..... tell me you couldn't find a better spot than the back of a store to place that!!!

[TRF]

And yet, I hear another 'Let people play the way they want" and/or "If you don't like them, don't do them" speech coming soon. Sorry, I can't buy that in these cases. There are some areas that caches should just not be placed near.

Then applying your logic to other life issues, we should not fly on certain airline carriers because they tend to be "terrorized" more often. Or we shouldn't visit certain cities because the crime rate is too high. Or we shouldn't buy certain cars because they don't rate as well as others in specific areas.

Why do we need to tell people what is or is not good for them? As you pointed out in relaying your anecdote, go with your gut feeling. More murders and muggings and drug deals happen in Central Park NY, NY than in all of Maine but I would still bring my kids to visit. I wouldn't bring them at midnight on a Saturday but I would think I'd betray them by denying them the opportunity to see the place. At one time Washington DC was the "murder capital" of the US. I'd bring my kids there too, I just would use common sense and not walk down back roads that I wasn't familiar with.

Also, I've heard of horror tales of people camping in Baxter State Park who have had horrific encounters with other people. On the other hand I would never say that you shouldn't go there. What about the murders along the Appalachian Trails, should we ban Rick from hiking that? or just that section of the trail?

My point being, is I don't need anyone to make decisions for me. I would appreciate and respect anyone who shares honest information with me but lets me make up my own mind. I can make good decisions without someone telling me what decision I should make. (I've made my share of bad choices too but attribute that to being given dishonest information for the most part.)

I can't help but respond to these comments when I feel that the freedom offered to geocachers to cache how they see fit, where and when they want, is being assailed by folks who believe they represent a purist view of a sport that was obviously intended to evolve and grow. Considering that geocaching is a "newer" sport I feel it short sighted to say that the way it was is the way it should be. I'm sure glad that Thomas Edison didn't say, Candles are the only acceptable way and there is no reason for any other way to illuminate our world. We wouldn't be geocaching for sure, although maybe someone would have come up with the term geo-dowser. Hmmmm, now that would be a purist way to find a cache.